Shkodran Mustafi: Cack On Top

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  1. Fallout

    Fallout Well-Known Member

    agree with you. i can see his usefulness in terms of set pieces and defensive aggression. but offensively he is unable to generate forward momentum from the back, and it keeps us penned in until we boot it up field. although a lot of people will claim we dominated the match (and we did for the most part), there was definitely a spell between our first goal and the end of the first half where we were in trouble tactically and unable to move it forward effectively and inviting counter attacks from them. mustafi was a big part of that.
     
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  2. Dennis_Bergkamp_10

    Dennis_Bergkamp_10 Well-Known Member

    I can't make up my mind about him, just like Xhaka. At times you feel like you want to shoot them but then they start playing very good for some time.

    But you know the next brainfart is just around the corner.

    He has improved a lot though since his arrival. I'll give him that.
     
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  3. TheArsenalis

    TheArsenalis Well-Known Member

    Well he probably wont play wednesday nor will xhaka so yall gonna have nobody to complain about wohoo
     
  4. ThlRama

    ThlRama Well-Known Member

    Mustafi was the single, the only, the one CB not guilty of a mistake that directly led to a goal in this game. Although to be fair Holding didn't touch Son with his challenge, but this is what history wrote, that he fouled him and conceded a penalty. So him, Sokratis, Foyth and Vertonghen gave away one goal each with their rashness or clumsiness.
     
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  5. TheArsenalis

    TheArsenalis Well-Known Member

    Bra on a real Mustafi is the best defender we have at playing the ball from the back since chambers left. Smh and all the never ending nitpicking and ignoring the others faults instead turning a blind eye but highlighting what Mustafa ddnt do right. Fact is he our top defender and he needs to go so do the rest because none of them are matching him statistically.
     
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  6. Fallout

    Fallout Well-Known Member

    i'm sorry but we just fundamentally disagree on all of those points.

    re: passing, i don't see where you're coming from. mustafi is good at finding bellerin on longer ground passes, but otherwise, he always mishits long balls to the forwards and he struggles to find our CMs short. most of the time he simply goes sideways and offloads responsibility to another CB. holding is our best ball-playing CB.

    re: statistics, i didn't criticize mustafi's defensive contribution in my post. but even so, i'll take the opportunity to argue that you shouldn't use stats so definitively because they can be significantly biased by stylistic decisions. for example, an aggressive player like mustafi will probably show up well in stats for tackles and interceptions, but he may just as easily be sacrificing our positional stability by getting beat more often or by committing dumb fouls. imo sokratis is our best CB in terms of pure defending.
     
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  7. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    Sick to death of hearing him shout "LEAVE IT" to our other defenders because he thinks he has it under control, only for him to completely fluff it once the ball runs through to him, he then blames the person who he told to leave the ball and starts throwing his arms up and whining (as always)

    Get this clown out of our team. He causes chaos and confusion every game. No wonder we are haemorrhaging goals left right and centre. Feel sorry for Holding and Sokratis.
     
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  8. Aevi

    Aevi Hands down best mod -Trilly (probably) Moderator

    Am I imagining things or does he seem to score quite often in big games?
     
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  9. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz Phallus Obsessed

    Scored against City, Tottenham and United. Had an incorrect (?) offside goal against Chelsea last season.
     
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  10. Kiwi-Gooner

    Kiwi-Gooner Active Member

    This man inexplicably manages to be a threat for us in the opposition box, yet even more of a threat for them in our box. I just don't think he is ultimately worth it, and also frustrating to see him take to social media straight after the game and brag about our 20 game unbeaten streak, when defensive errors cost us the win.
     
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  11. Aevi

    Aevi Hands down best mod -Trilly (probably) Moderator

    Neat resume, that.
     
  12. NieThePiet

    NieThePiet Loves Overhyping Our Rivals

    Sokratis and Mustafi had no problem with the attack from United today.

    Of course you can complain about small things, but there are enough reasons why Mustafi is starting every PL game for Emery.

    So good on our corners and free kicks, such a threat for the other team.
     
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  13. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    Finished as captain and gave a very articulate interiew in which he said we had no excuses for the goals we gave away. He's not been awful this season but i think he's lost the trust of a lot of fans.
     
  14. RandomHero84

    RandomHero84 Well-Known Member

    He's had a much better season than last season, but he always has that chaotic moment in him. He went to ground very recklessly with an early slide tackle just to the left of the box. Totally unnecessary.

    Even when he has a decent game there is at least one rash challenge in a critical area. I'd like us to have a more measured presence in his place.
     
  15. MutableEarth

    MutableEarth Bloody awesome NSFW avatars Trusted

    Good and bad from Mustafi again. He was actually not bad overall today IMO but.......it's hard to trust him.
     
  16. Sanchez11's ghost

    Sanchez11's ghost Superior Journalist To Charles Watts

    All that was needed was to clear it, simple stuff really.
     
  17. CurryFlavoured

    CurryFlavoured Well-Known Member

    Pretty much sums it up that he's hard to trust. Even on good days I feel like he'll make a mistake or be outmuscled by the striker, he was pretty good again Utd though.
     
  18. DasBootist

    DasBootist Well-Known Member

    Has been a different player under the new boss. Like several of his teammates. Worth perservering with imo
     
  19. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    He scores goals... but has brain farts which leads to us leaking goals too. Strange player. Keep forgetting he isn't that old. Not that young either. Needs to bring it together soon though.
     
  20. Wryer

    Wryer Well-Known Member

    This is the kind of player he is. He'll run through a wall for you, but the reality is, most of the time he doesn't need to. I still think he is fairly young as a centre back, but he does need partners with specific skillset to cover for him. Someone calming and cerebral, as well as quick enough to cover him when he overcommits. Personally, I think we cannot have too many players who can't take care of themselves.
     
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