The Wish List

[squallkid]

In the wishlist where names like Falcao and Javi Martinez are bandied around I would consider that realistic, a tad bit on the optimistic side but realistic all the same.

But if you want realistic/crushing pessimism here you go

Kalou
Craig Gordon

That's it

 

[AFC-Phil]

If you call it realistic, surely it should be realistic... Sahin, M'Vila and Lewandoski is certainly not realistic in any way shape or form for various reasons. For one, Mourinho isn't going to sell Sahin any time soon. He's clearly earmarked him as the heir to Alonso in Madrid's midfield.

 

[eye4goal]

Not sure Mourinho is that keen on Sahin. Rumours are that he's turned down Sp**s as a makeweight in the Modric deal.

 

[kalleTheMan]

Very few signs Mourinho rates Sahin at all, think Granero is ahead of Sahin atm.

 

[AFC-Phil]

Granero has played more minutes as Mourinho looks at his deeper midfield roles in isolation. One as a DLP with Alonso playing and when Alonso required a break/was unavailable, Sahin stepped in. The other a B2B role with Khedira starting and at times Coentrao/Lass/Granero getting some game time.

Haven't checked the stats, but I'd be surprised if Mourinho started any La Liga/CL game with out one of Sahin/Alonso at the base of the midfield. I'd also wager that neither have successfully started together either.

It's not down to who he rates, it's his perception of the roles and with Alonso playing to a high level and almost always available, Sahin hasn't got much of a look in, in such a specialist role.

 

[truth_hurts]

In:

Back up GK: Gordon, Sorenson
Defender: M'Bwia
Holding midfielder: M'Villa, Tiote, Diarra, DeJong
Attacker/Playmaker: Belhanda, Oscar, Erikssen

 

[Pea-Tear-Griffin]

Out:
RVP 25million
Walcott(potentially) 20million
Arshavin 7million
Park 3million
Bendtner 8million
Chamack 6million
Squillachi Released

In:
Jovetic 20million
Ben Arfa 18 million
Sahin 8million
Lars bender 12million
Cristico (potentially get him for cheap due to match fixing scandal, although he is not cleared yet) 7million
Ba 7million

Spend=95million including Podolski/Giroud
Income=69million
Net spend=26million
All the players would be attainable due to not playing/ non champions league clubs.

Surely a 26million expenditure should be expected for a top club, hopefully challenging for trophies.

 

[dpt49]

Out:
RVP 25million
Walcott(potentially) 20million
Arshavin 7million
Park 3million
Bendtner 8million
Chamack 6million
Squillachi Released

In:
Jovetic 20million
Ben Arfa 18 million
Sahin 8million
Lars bender 12million
Cristico (potentially get him for cheap due to match fixing scandal, although he is not cleared yet) 7million
Ba 7million

Spend=95million including Podolski/Giroud
Income=69million
Net spend=26million
All the players would be attainable due to not playing/ non champions league clubs.

Surely a 26million expenditure should be expected for a top club, hopefully challenging for trophies.

Not if the major shareholder is Stan Kroenke and his only ambition is to make a massive profit out of a "soccer" team :wink:

 

[Pea-Tear-Griffin]

Out:
RVP 25million
Walcott(potentially) 20million
Arshavin 7million
Park 3million
Bendtner 8million
Chamack 6million
Squillachi Released

In:
Jovetic 20million
Ben Arfa 18 million
Sahin 8million
Lars bender 12million
Cristico (potentially get him for cheap due to match fixing scandal, although he is not cleared yet) 7million
Ba 7million

Spend=95million including Podolski/Giroud
Income=69million
Net spend=26million
All the players would be attainable due to not playing/ non champions league clubs.

Surely a 26million expenditure should be expected for a top club, hopefully challenging for trophies.

Not if the major shareholder is Stan Kroenke and his only ambition is to make a massive profit out of a "soccer" team :wink:

Exactly . However with the R+W letter, he will be under pressure to spend to prevent fan backlash, as he will not want what happened to the Glazers to happen to him. Although he has said in the past stated he admires the Glazers approach :roll:

 

[Impact]

Clint Dempsey
Lucas Biglia
Craig Gordon

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Out:
RVP 25million
Walcott(potentially) 20million
Arshavin 7million
Park 3million
Bendtner 8million
Chamack 6million
Squillachi Released

In:
Jovetic 20million
Ben Arfa 18 million
Sahin 8million
Lars bender 12million
Cristico (potentially get him for cheap due to match fixing scandal, although he is not cleared yet) 7million
Ba 7million

Spend=95million including Podolski/Giroud
Income=69million
Net spend=26million
All the players would be attainable due to not playing/ non champions league clubs.

Surely a 26million expenditure should be expected for a top club, hopefully challenging for trophies.

Not if the major shareholder is Stan Kroenke and his only ambition is to make a massive profit out of a "soccer" franchise :wink:

Fixed for you...*shudder*

 

[jones]

Granero has played more minutes as Mourinho looks at his deeper midfield roles in isolation. One as a DLP with Alonso playing and when Alonso required a break/was unavailable, Sahin stepped in. The other a B2B role with Khedira starting and at times Coentrao/Lass/Granero getting some game time.

Haven't checked the stats, but I'd be surprised if Mourinho started any La Liga/CL game with out one of Sahin/Alonso at the base of the midfield. I'd also wager that neither have successfully started together either.

No offence, but I'm seriously wondering which La Liga you did watch last season. Sahin had two or three sub cameos all season, most of the time he didn't even make the bench.

Not saying that Mourinho is looking to offload, but if you look at these stats:

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He played only in matches that had little to no meaning at all. Of course, it's not easy to get playing time if the competition for your spot is Xabi Alonso, but Benzema and Higuain find themselves in the same situation and they compete with each other, leaving Mourinho no choice but to play both. Sahin, for whatever reason, does not.

 

[Vela]

Aren't they trying to offload Sahin as part of the Modric deal. But Sahin doesn't want to join Sp**s as they aren't in the CL?

 

[jones]

We'd be a stronger side with Ba/Ben Arfa/Tiote in place of RVP/Walcott/Song? Really?

Ben Arfa and Tiote are better than Walcott and Song.

Ben Arfa is clearly the better footballer, but he lacks end product. Also he's a liability because he's an idiot, a cancer in the dressing room and a crock, the guy's 25 and he has less games under his belt than Theo FFS. Don't know why people would want him here if we already have Diaby who ticks the same boxes and is not such a ****.

Tioté is vastly overrated to me, all muscle no brains. He seriously has nothing but his physique, no goal threat (except for the obligatory screamer against us) and can't spot a pass if his life depended on it. Would take Song with all his flaws over him every day of the week, not exactly a slouch in the physical department either and an infinitely better footballer.

 

[musicmonkey]

We'd be a stronger side with Ba/Ben Arfa/Tiote in place of RVP/Walcott/Song? Really?

Ben Arfa and Tiote are better than Walcott and Song.

Ben Arfa is clearly the better footballer, but he lacks end product. Also he's a liability because he's an idiot, a cancer in the dressing room and a crock, the guy's 25 and he has less games under his belt than Theo FFS. Don't know why people would want him here if we already have Diaby who ticks the same boxes and is not such a ****.

Tioté is vastly overrated to me, all muscle no brains. He seriously has nothing but his physique, no goal threat (except for the obligatory screamer against us) and can't spot a pass if his life depended on it. Would take Song with all his flaws over him every day of the week, not exactly a slouch in the physical department either and an infinitely better footballer.

Plus because of their over-ratedness they're both ridiculously expensive. £20m for either? No chance of getting that from me when we already have Song, could get M'Vila for around £14m so Tiote's a no go.

Personally i think we could find far better for cheaper in terms of Ben Arfa too.

 

[Vela]

At the moment I just want Arsenal to keep signing players which will improve the starting elven and squad.

 

[AFC-Phil]

Granero has played more minutes as Mourinho looks at his deeper midfield roles in isolation. One as a DLP with Alonso playing and when Alonso required a break/was unavailable, Sahin stepped in. The other a B2B role with Khedira starting and at times Coentrao/Lass/Granero getting some game time.

Haven't checked the stats, but I'd be surprised if Mourinho started any La Liga/CL game with out one of Sahin/Alonso at the base of the midfield. I'd also wager that neither have successfully started together either.

No offence, but I'm seriously wondering which La Liga you did watch last season. Sahin had two or three sub cameos all season, most of the time he didn't even make the bench.

Not saying that Mourinho is looking to offload, but if you look at these stats:

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He played only in matches that had little to no meaning at all. Of course, it's not easy to get playing time if the competition for your spot is Xabi Alonso, but Benzema and Higuain find themselves in the same situation and they compete with each other, leaving Mourinho no choice but to play both. Sahin, for whatever reason, does not.

Not sure why you've responded here. I've acknowledged that he was used sparingly, but explained why that was the case.

The key differences between the two comparisons of Alonso/Sahin and Benzema/Higuain are:

Alonso was playing to a very high level last year, and was a notch above what Sahin could produce. The drop in quality was clearly evident, whilst with Benzema/Higuain it was much smaller. This was shown as there were just 5 goals between them over the season, with Benzema getting more minutes. In fact, Higuain/Benzema was often picked for the opposition with Benzema being a better option against the bigger sides with his level of work rate, clinical finishing and hold-up play.

Secondly, Sahin is adjusting to Spain still, and with the need to always win on the cards, it's understandable that Mourinho didn't want to introduce Sahin into games that he wasn't ready for. Higuain, as I'm sure you're aware has been in Spain for a long time now.

 

[jones]

Not sure why you've responded here. I've acknowledged that he was used sparingly, but explained why that was the case.

Fair enough, I understood it differently and responded to this

Haven't checked the stats, but I'd be surprised if Mourinho started any La Liga/CL game with out one of Sahin/Alonso at the base of the midfield.

I found it a little strange, to me it seems as if Sahin really played any part and filled in for Xabi, when it really wasn't the case.

Agree with the rest though, no doubt about his quality, and Real players tend to do bad in their first year, then come back strongly. Bad decision by Sahin nevertheless to move there imo.

 

[AFC-Phil]

Fair enough, I understood it differently and responded to this

Haven't checked the stats, but I'd be surprised if Mourinho started any La Liga/CL game with out one of Sahin/Alonso at the base of the midfield.

I thought the same (About it being a touch misleading in what I was trying to say), hence why I put this bit in at the bottom:

It's not down to who he rates, it's his perception of the roles and with Alonso playing to a high level and almost always available, Sahin hasn't got much of a look in, in such a specialist role.

I found it a little strange, to me it seems as if Sahin really played any part and filled in for Xabi, when it really wasn't the case.

Agree with the rest though, no doubt about his quality, and Real players tend to do bad in their first year, then come back strongly. Bad decision by Sahin nevertheless to move there imo.

That point wasn't about the regularity of Sahin's playing time (Which was approx 380 minutes in the CL & La Liga) but more about the specialist nature of Mourinho's midfield roles and how that relates to Sahin/Alonso.

 

[Vela]

Would anyone take Bruno Soriano at Arsenal? He's 28 years old now, Villarreal have been relegated so he could be cheap to buy.