Toni Kroos

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Ceballinhos, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. say yes

    say yes To Sweet Soulful House Music

    Guessing people are saying that because they think Kante is more of an upgrade on Coquelin than Kroos is on Wilshere/Cazorla/Ramsey.
     
  2. BBF

    BBF Real name: Ragip Xh...

    That wasn't what I was arguing, you've taken it out of context. I was arguing that the Madrid midfield gets overrun when he's playing beside another CM. He's played DM for 35% of his games there, and he's been terrible. I don't rely on stats, but I've backed it up, you can watch any game he's started for Madrid and you'll see it.

    The ball winner and DLP thing is a myth too. We had one a couple of years ago and he wasn't Busquets was he? We don't need a DM to ping assist from our box, we need a player who's good technically and can pass further than 15 yards without ****ting the bed.
     
  3. say yes

    say yes To Sweet Soulful House Music

    What do you think of Kroos as the more advanced midfielder with a DM behind him @BBF ?

    Think he'd be a massive improvement on Cazorla/Ramsey.
     
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  4. 4R5Emaniac

    4R5Emaniac Always fresh from Bangladesh

    But being a playmaker and playing between two other playmkers who were adjusted to a central midfield role to begin with was always going to be difficult. Or with another central midfielder who isn't predominantly a defensive player with legs to get up and down.

    Pirlo's biggest success periods coincided with playing between two more well rounded energetic or defensive players. Everyone isn't Busquets and he is not fully responsible with creating for his team. Fitting in Kroos in a central midfield role won't be a problem for us, imo.
     
  5. BBF

    BBF Real name: Ragip Xh...

    It would be for sure, even if I don't rate him defensively. I'm not knocking him at all, he's a quality player, but if you're spending £35m+ on a signing you need you don't want Toni Kroos. He isn't a game changer for us.
     
  6. Prawn Sandwich

    Prawn Sandwich Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking Kroos can be a utility type quality player. Could be very useful for us in a similar way to what I'd hoped we could have got from A. Vidal last summer, but which wasn't to be.

    A player who can compete in his own right for his favoured starting midfield position. But who could also, when Cazorla/Coquelin was injured, offer better cover than what we have for either role.
     
  7. North5

    North5 Here since 2009. Still no custom title.

    Overatted but just reaching the prime years of a midfielder. I would prefer other players but wouldn't say no.

    At least the guys a winner.
     
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  8. MaraDon

    MaraDon Wants you to learn about football

    lol he is not world class, he is a good footballer with a nice shoot.
    He would be a good signing because we are going to need bodies in the middle of the park, but he cant be used as a DM, he is a box to box on Ramsey`s molde, and there is no much difference bettween the 2.
     
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  9. MaraDon

    MaraDon Wants you to learn about football

    Massive is a big word. Very debatable.
     
  10. adpree

    adpree Well-Known Member

    Yeah I get the same feeling. Does not really impose himself in a game, which players in his position do. Excellent passer though.
     
  11. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    Overrated but still ****s on any midfielder we have from a heavenly height.
     
  12. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    Technically excellent. One of the best strikers of a ball you'll see, very two footed as well.

    Not a good fit for us though. I love Özil but having a two man midfield really limits the kind of CM's we can sign. I could see him doing well with a 13/14 season Ramsey next to him.
     
  13. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Rate Santi higher.
     
  14. Aevi

    Aevi Smooth Moderator

    As a CAM, clearly. As a CM, eh, Kroos has more experience there and some good strength on him, so there is an argument to be made.
     

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