Neither have a game in hand on us tbf.
Neither have a game in hand on us tbf.
5-1 against any team is embarrassing. No one really expects much when we play Barcelona or Bayern but a decent performance and respectable score line is expected.Embarrassment is getting beat by the dog and duck or losing to a average liverpool side. Playing barcelona or bayern munich and losing to them in the elite competition in europe is not embarrassing. If this was monaco or porto or someone like that then yeah frustrated. But we are playing one of the top 5 sides in europe or the world.
The boys will put in a performance on tuesday. Win or lose we played the best.
If we came away from the Bayern game 2-1 or even 3-1 people wouldn't have been kicking off like they have at the 5-1 loss.
5-1 against any team is embarrassing. No one really expects much when we play Barcelona or Bayern but a decent performance and respectable score line is expected.
If we came away from the Bayern game 2-1 or even 3-1 people wouldn't have been kicking off like they have at the 5-1 loss.
My second place prediction is looking under threat, but luckily I can edit my posts retroactively without leaving any trace.
Sky have done an analysis (for what its worth) for how the table will end. They look at the opposition etc and possible no of games left to play (fatigue) but have assumed we will be in the next round of the CL after tonight! Anyway, may be good (or bad) to look back at this in May.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ssing-out-on-top-four-premier-league-finishes
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We perceive embarrassment in different ways. Losing 5 - 1 to anyone is embarrassing.Embarrassment is getting beat by the dog and duck or losing to a average liverpool side. Playing barcelona or bayern munich and losing to them in the elite competition in europe is not embarrassing. If this was monaco or porto or someone like that then yeah frustrated. But we are playing one of the top 5 sides in europe or the world.
The boys will put in a performance on tuesday. Win or lose we played the best.
I wouldn't put much store by all the analyses. We always find that extra gear when our place in the top four is threatened. Its a little sad really, that top four is the only thing that is able to motivate the team to perform above expectations.Sky have done an analysis (for what its worth) for how the table will end. They look at the opposition etc and possible no of games left to play (fatigue) but have assumed we will be in the next round of the CL after tonight! Anyway, may be good (or bad) to look back at this in May.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ssing-out-on-top-four-premier-league-finishes
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I wouldn't put much store by all the analyses. We always find that extra gear when our place in the top four is threatened. Its a little sad really, that top four is the only thing that is able to motivate the team to perform above expectations.
Doesn't account for Sp**s choking, no way to quantify that. We might not finish above them but they'll f**k up horrendously down the line.
I know but it will be interesting to see how accurate they are come May. I don't think we will get top 4 this season and I've never felt like that.
Me neither, but that was down to timing....it's now nearly Mid-March, and we're still in our annual slump. That's really worrying, as there are no signs of improvement, since you can't blame injuries either.
I hope we make the top four, not because that place has any meaning, but if we don't make the top four and Wenger leaves(which he should be even if he makes the top four, truth be told) the narrative will be that Wenger was sacked because he couldn't get us into the top four. That'll make us look a little petty to the incoming manager and players.I know their analysis is as good as guess work, this season though I do think we will miss out on top 4.
Yeh, we generally have a good 2nd half of the season that always saves us, this season there is no sign of it happening. We struggle to sign players anyway, if we dont have CL the summer could be even harder.
I guess we get embarrassed by different types of things. I don't get embarrassed much by normal losses against Liverpool, or even when we lose against teams from lower divisions. Why? Because it happens to everyone. It happens to Barcelona and it will happen to us, it's just part of the game. However, getting beaten 6-0, 5-1 etc. on regular basis against top clubs is not only very rare, but is also something that directly influences how Arsenal will be perceived when compared to those clubs.Embarrassment is getting beat by the dog and duck or losing to a average liverpool side. Playing barcelona or bayern munich and losing to them in the elite competition in europe is not embarrassing. If this was monaco or porto or someone like that then yeah frustrated. But we are playing one of the top 5 sides in europe or the world.
The boys will put in a performance on tuesday. Win or lose we played the best.