Mudi
Well-Known Member
Holding just proved that we have wasted so much time with Chambers...
I always felt a bit sorry for Chambers as he was thrown in at the deep end in wrong positions for him and it ruined his confidence, Holding has take to it like a duck to water. Semis then final with great performances.Holding just proved that we have wasted so much time with Chambers...
I think it shows the difference in mentality between the two players.I always felt a bit sorry for Chambers as he was thrown in at the deep end in wrong positions for him and it ruined his confidence, Holding has take to it like a duck to water. Semis then final with great performances.
I love how Gary O'Driscoll (Club doctor) pops up to remind him to keep drinking
Ox is so cheap, he goes from boyfriend to boyfriend like a highschool girl! First Jenko, than Chambers and now Holdini. Let's hope that the third time is the charm!
Why is it harsh on Chambers? Same age as Holding, played at a higher level before joining Arsenal and didn't improve at all in the two years he was with us. Even with Boro, he was just okay, nothing special. He even played most of the times RB as he wasn't good enough to play CB.It's very harsh on Chambers to compare him with Holding, the latter's maturity and composure is very uncommon in young defenders.
Calum's still young and has had a very positive season, far too early to say we wasted our time with him. Especially so now that we have an extra CB on the pitch.
Actually I'm pretty sure it happened because Boro had an injury crisis in defense.He even played most of the times RB as he wasn't good enough to play CB.
Why is it harsh on Chambers? Same age as Holding, played at a higher level before joining Arsenal and didn't improve at all in the two years he was with us. Even with Boro, he was just okay, nothing special. He even played most of the times RB as he wasn't good enough to play CB.
Comparing Holding and Chambers at this stage of their career is kind of a waste of time.
Holding clearly had a breakthrough season for us, but his development and Chambers' have been completely different.
Holding is a CB, and that is really the only position he should play. He has the technical ability to play RB, but it wouldn't make any sense to play him there. Therefore, Holding has pretty much exclusively played at CB. He got experience in the Championship as a CB with Bolton and transferred that to us. Holding is basically played one position and has steadily gotten better at that one position.
Chambers' development is completely different.
This season at Boro was really his first opportunity to get a consistent run at CB. At Southampton, he played DM and CB for the reserves, but never for the first team. He got his breakthrough at Southampton due to an injury at RB, and he performed so well in this new position that we bought him. We bought a player who has the potential to be an excellent CB who had hardly played CB outside of the England youth team squads.
And then when we signed Chambers we played him at RB because we had more experienced players at CB.
This season Holding and Chambers needed completely different things to further their development. Holding needed to get used to playing for Arsenal and being part of a team and in a league way above what he is used to.
Chambers finally needed the experience of playing CB week in and week out.
They both got exactly what they needed this season. Everyone at Boro said that Chambers was a top player at CB. Occasionally, he played RB if they had an injury crisis, but Chambers and Ben Gibson were their starting CBs.
Next season the two of them could have a big impact. Merts with Chambers and Holding in a back three could be excellent.
I expect both of them to be ahead of Gabriel in the pecking order.
Bit off putting to see Chambers getting laid into here.