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unlike Doozi, Willock can attack and defend.
While they might be promising, None have proven **** yet. Absolutely noone there should be a starter. Nor a backup. You want nketiah who scored 1 goal in the prem to be backup to Aubemayang? He's good enough without having shown anything ?
I love to play some younger talents but to rely on kids is not a good thing to do. Unless ofcourse they are unreal talents like fabregas etc. which so far none of these kids have shown at all.
I don't agree and here is why:@MutableEarth @Maybe @scytheavatar
You missed the point, all of you. We should not RELY on kids. I love to play some youngsters, and if they prove themselves fine we can play them more often. But if we for example have Nketiah as our only backup for laca/auba we are ****ed.
Do you guys not agree?
You think we should have kids that played 7 games in pl as our backup players?
We should have these kids as our starters and rely on them?
I don't believe you really think that is a good idea.
I don't agree and here is why:
1.) Your argument are not suited for Arsenal current situation. You mindset is still with the invincibles where Joe Willock should replace Vieira and Nketiah should replace Henry. The standards of first team are on 20 year low where only 4-5 players are considered to be good enough to be at the club.
2.) You are not considering our financial issues. While you do understand that we need to replace deadwood, you expect that money will fall from the sky and we will just buy 5-6 players. We won't and we shouldn't do that. That's why I consider integrating 5 younger players and buying 2 top class is the most important thing next season, more important than results.
3.) Value of first team squad is dropping every year. We are not attractive enough for elite young players from Europe and that's why we need to integrate our own to create future value.
4.) We've become more or less a club where players are coming in to finish their careers on huge contracts offering nothing in return. Swapping them for academy players that were raised by Arsenal would change that. If you think Özil or Mkhi on huge wages will offer more on the pitch next year than Willock or ESR, I think you are in for a disappointment.
The worst thing of all is that current first team is not good enough to make any results, and at the same time there is no interest in any of our overpaid players from other clubs making this transition impossible without youth
Smith-Rowe nearly signed for Barca too.Stunning sense of entitlement.
There was a time when the likes of Benik Afobe and Chuks Aneke were linked to Barcelona before signing their professional contracts. Where are they now?
He'll learn soon enough.
Smith-Rowe nearly signed for Barca too.
Think Musah will stay if I'm honest. Will be a big blow if he does leave but a blow softened by Miguel Azeez still being at the club thankfully.
@MutableEarth @Maybe @scytheavatar
You missed the point, all of you. We should not RELY on kids. I love to play some youngsters, and if they prove themselves fine we can play them more often. But if we for example have Nketiah as our only backup for laca/auba we are ****ed.
Do you guys not agree?
You think we should have kids that played 7 games in pl as our backup players?
We should have these kids as our starters and rely on them?
I don't believe you really think that is a good idea.
I don't agree and here is why:
1.) Your argument are not suited for Arsenal current situation. You mindset is still with the invincibles where Joe Willock should replace Vieira and Nketiah should replace Henry. The standards of first team are on 20 year low where only 4-5 players are considered to be good enough to be at the club.
2.) You are not considering our financial issues. While you do understand that we need to replace deadwood, you expect that money will fall from the sky and we will just buy 5-6 players. We won't and we shouldn't do that. That's why I consider integrating 5 younger players and buying 2 top class is the most important thing next season, more important than results.
3.) Value of first team squad is dropping every year. We are not attractive enough for elite young players from Europe and that's why we need to integrate our own to create future value.
4.) We've become more or less a club where players are coming in to finish their careers on huge contracts offering nothing in return. Swapping them for academy players that were raised by Arsenal would change that. If you think Özil or Mkhi on huge wages will offer more on the pitch next year than Willock or ESR, I think you are in for a disappointment.
The worst thing of all is that current first team is not good enough to make any results, and at the same time there is no interest in any of our overpaid players from other clubs making this transition impossible without youth
You can't have read my posts mate. I don't disagree with anything you've said in your post.If we don't want to give talented kids like Nketiah and Saka chances then we should close down our club. Permanently. How the heck do you expect us to be competitive with the other big clubs if none of our academy players succeed? And how can our academy players succeed if we deprive them chances to prove themselves?
It's one thing if Nketiah and Saka get games and play poorly. But now they are getting scraps.
This is the reality for most of these kids. Couple of weeks back people in this thread we acting all indignant about why we didn't give this super talent a shot at RB. Now after having had trials all over the place, it turns out 2. Bundesliga is his current level.Looks like Osei-Tutu is going to VfL Bochum on loan.
Discussing stuff with people like you who don't even watch Arsenal games is pointless.I'm not a big fan of özil or Mkhi tbf but they are probably offering more over a season than both those. You of course have zero ground for what you are saying since these guys have played what 10-20 games combined at a good level in their life? Can't believe you think Özil is worse than these two? I dont like him but cmon..
Discussing stuff with people like you who don't even watch Arsenal games is pointless.
If there is a player we should never again rely on, it would be Özil. 6 goals and 3 assists without playing defence is not an argument that would go in your favour, it just proves my point. That's the output we would get from any of our young players up front.
Relying on kids would mean that we sell our important players and replace them with kids. Integrating kids means getting rid of the deadwood and replace them with kids. The thing is, majority of our first team is rubbish, that's why kids at Arsenal would actually have important role in our next season instead of just being integrated slowly. That's choosing between rubbish player and academy product, and I'd take academy product every time because it will save us money and create future value. If you can't understand this, I'm afraid we are just wasting time here.