European Super League

[teamsoutheast]

I'm really having a laugh reading the comments on here. Most fans were moaning about playing so called farmers in the UEL and begging for us to be back in the Champions League and now we have the opportunity to watch us play week in week out against Europe's best, fans don't want it!!! You really can't win with our fan base...

 

[Hunta]

Those little clubs in Leicester and Villa can get back in their little boxes and watch THE Arsenal represent them in the biggest league ever seen in world sport.

Can only thank Senior Florentino Perez for such a stunning creation, having nachos for dinner to celebrate.

 

[Malky]

Imagine how many Willians we can get with that.

Man is Elneny in for a bumper contract extension!

 

[Makingtrax]

So the only success Arsenal can achieve is winning the league. Black and white win the league or nothing.

So we lose the first 3 games of the PL season. Where is the motivation for the players and coach to try to improve when they know they can't win the league and there is no other significant measurement of success? There is literally no difference finishing 2nd or 15th.

’Top 4 isn’t a trophy’ will finally have some real meaning.

 

[glitchform]

Of course it's no fun I'd rather watch us competing for 4th spot in league than knowing we in this competition every year it's kill competition and motivation

We aren't competing for fourth spot though.

We're competing for 10th, 8th at best.

Referees: the odd statistics that are simply never revealed or discussed | Untold Arsenal: Supporting the club, the manager and the team

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And interestingly as I came to post this article I noticed a comment from Lakh which read
“It’s either the refs are wrong or untold don’t know much about refereeing. However whatever the case is, this blaming the ref after ever sub-optimal result has become stale.”
It is an obvious piece of gaslighting – rather than becoming involved in the debate, suggesting that the debate that we are having is itself of no value – it is “stale.”
This is how the debate is stopped, not by answering the points raised, but by calling the debate pointless. I am glad to have such a perfect example provided. So moving on…
At the end of the last piece I argued that the gaslighting technique which dismisses an argument as stupid or pointless, or dismisses the people putting forward the argument as stupid, or in some other way biased, ignorant or inadequate, is what we have with any attempt to discuss refereeing in English football. It is the President Trump approach of simply stating untruths as facts, and dismissing the argument as pointless, stupid, or just plain idiotic. It doesn’t take sides in the argument – it just dismisses the validity of the debate.
Thus an Arsenal fan raising the issue of refereeing is often portrayed as nothing other than a person who is trying to excuse the poor performances of his/her team and ineptness of the manager by blaming referees. The argument would not be put, it is suggested, if Arsenal were winning the League.
Untold Arsenal has for the past year been running statistics which compare the number of fouls teams commit before they get a yellow card, and it turns out the numbers vary greatly, and it is very strange. How can one team repeatedly commit twice as many fouls as another and yet get fewer yellow cards? Likewise we raised the question of Leicester City and its penalties. As I wrote last December “In its report on Leicester’s win at Tottenham, the Guardian mentions Leicester penalty five times. On the BBC Radio 4 report this morning the penalty was mentioned four times. But neither news source mentioned the real oddity of the Leicester penalty. That is that this was Leicester’s ninth penalty of the season.”
So in a world in which the BBC website is able to point out that “Nine Arsenal players have been sent off since Arteta’s first game in charge on Boxing Day 2019, five more than any other side,” there was no mention of the extraordinary number of penalties that Leicester were being granted.

 

[krengon]

They need these teams to join, especially Bayern and PSG or it's already on shaky ground. Probably have to make the incentives for the 5 additional teams more worthwhile too than what was rumoured earlier.

 

[OnlyOne]

Grealish - 80M
Hakimi - 50M
Bissouma - 35M
Haaland - 130M
Ødegaard - Loan

Think that gives us enough to finish top 4 in ESL.

 

[Hunta]

Neville is only crying over this due to Salford. He had big ideas of them becoming a PL club soon and earning him big money.

Big nosed dosser is shaking right now.

 

[Rex Stone]

I'm really having a laugh reading the comments on here. Most fans were moaning about playing so called farmers in the UEL and begging for us to be back in the Champions League and now we have the opportunity to watch us play week in week out against Europe's best, fans don't want it!!! You really can't win with our fan base...

Mainly because this is like losing at monopoly and then banning anyone else from playing.

Why should Arsenal just decide they’re now a European elite club.

 

[14Henry]

’Top 4 isn’t a trophy’ will finally have some real meaning.

Yeah but it will also mean that finishing 10th has no real negative significance either. It will just be existing in a league with no motivation the moment you can't win it.

 

[Hunta]

They need these teams to join, especially Bayern and PSG or it's already on shaky ground. Probably have to make the incentives for the 5 additional teams more worthwhile too than what was rumoured earlier.

As if this bum was getting in anyway.

 

[Gooner1988TK]

FIFA and the Prem are bluffers IMO. Who wants to watch the prem with Shane Longstaff as an elite midfielder. Ings as the best striker haha. More importantly what is a World Cup without the elite talents that will be playing in the ESL. There’s a reason Nike & Adidas adverts don’t have Ings & Longstaff as poster boys. FIFA & UEFA are just waiting for their bribe under the table. Once FIFA then UEFA bend the knee, the Prem and other leagues have no choice but to follow or face financial destruction. People will exclusively tune into ESL as well as the national team competitions if they purposely exclude all the quality players.

 

[dashsnow17]

Haha good luck getting the ESL off the ground when Mesut doesn't support it, his army is undefeated, his power is total!

 

[GDeep™]

A league that you can’t get relegated from, locks out everyone else, destroys European football and what we love and grew up with, and makes the owners and their mates massive cash with no competition.

Stan doesn’t even go to games.

The more you think about it, there is nothing more disgusting and embarrassing than this.

You’ll have to be a child or a total inbred to support this.

 

[Macho]

Grealish - 80M
Hakimi - 50M
Bissouma - 35M
Haaland - 130M
Ödegaard - Loan

Think that gives us enough to finish top 4 in ESL.

lol give Kronke good reason to spend 300 mil other than just to entertain you/us?

 

[Camron]

UEFA and FIFA have been in pockets of the rich for years. Both criminal the way they are run. Just look at WC bids and Baku.

In the end they will accept whatever these billionaires/countries tell them. And we as fans will watch on whatever paywall channel they broadcast this on.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

Redemption at last.

 

[Kingslayer]

Did people actually think anyone from top to bottom of this sport cares about the fans? Bet you think a former player not celebrating scoring against their old club is 'class' as well and not carefully curated PR. They all live in a completely different world to the average fan. Time to embrace it, this was inevitable.

 

[Rex Stone]

They need these teams to join, especially Bayern and PSG or it's already on shaky ground. Probably have to make the incentives for the 5 additional teams more worthwhile too than what was rumoured earlier.

Yeah they need that market domination. It’s how things like the UFC and NFL managed to wipe out competition in the past.

If you have top class players split across the two then FIFA and the others will have the upper hand because they have the hand on the talent pipeline.

 

[14Henry]

I'm really having a laugh reading the comments on here. Most fans were moaning about playing so called farmers in the UEL and begging for us to be back in the Champions League and now we have the opportunity to watch us play week in week out against Europe's best, fans don't want it!!! You really can't win with our fan base...

We were begging to progress as a club and earn the right to play those matches again. Not get given a free pass just because Barcelona and Madrid need a few teams to make up the numbers.