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4-5-1

Buhry

Established Member

Country: Norway
Buy a real midfielder and play 4-4-2 ffs.
Ban the stupid 4-5-1, at least ban it at AFC.
 

Bossinho

Active Member
you cant win a game with one player in front, is wenger so stupid or what that he is doing that. none of the big teams are playing just one in front, that just useless. Wenger you are thinking like a LOSER at the moment, get yourself together, soon or go back to JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:x :x
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
Bossinho said:
you cant win a game with one player in front, is wenger so stupid or what that he is doing that. none of the big teams are playing just one in front, that just useless. Wenger you are thinking like a LOSER at the moment, get yourself together, soon or go back to JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:x :x

well tell that to chelsea and you're absolutely going to get a good stupid laugh at your face.

the difference between our 4-5-1 with other big clubs 4-5-1 is that they have a set of players who are able to carry that formation. unlike us, henry almost played like a midfielder in 4-5-1 so it seems that we were playing like 4-6-0, let alone our wingers who can cross but the target man isn't willing to head the ball into the net.

think before you say something. it might save you and your country from some embarrassment.
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
Arsène shouldn't have deployed 4-5-1 with the type of players we have. it seems so wrong.
 

Mbaki Mutahaba

Established Member
you guys gotta have short f* memories. Our 4-4-2 was exposed a lot early this year and at that time the *****ing was we are being overrun in the middle of the park cos most teams were playing us with a 5 man midfield. Now we adapt a 5 man midfield..and of course you only remain with ONE striker. That has made us less effective upfront..but in most games has given us some balance in the midfield. So when you ***** about 4-5-1 and you already know failures with our 4-4-2 was the actual cause to try 4-5-1 what do you suggest?

You want a 4-3-3?

In regards to yesterday's game, It don't matter what f*ing formation you use, if the players are not executing right. we will be punished. If you can't pass or hold the ball. You will lose be it 3-5-2 or 4-6-0 or ...
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
not necessarily true. if the players were played in their respective positions, they might execute it well.

ljungberg ACM, pires RM, lauren LB, reyes LM, senderos and sol switched places.

and on top of that, ljungberg played as RB 15 minutes before full time.

it's really about formation and players organization. if you at the moment don't have players who can play 4-5-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2 whatever the formation is, well what else can i say.

you're asking for it before you get on the pitch.
 

Bossinho

Active Member
bojed said:
Bossinho said:
you cant win a game with one player in front, is wenger so stupid or what that he is doing that. none of the big teams are playing just one in front, that just useless. Wenger you are thinking like a LOSER at the moment, get yourself together, soon or go back to JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:x :x

well tell that to chelsea and you're absolutely going to get a good stupid laugh at your face.

the difference between our 4-5-1 with other big clubs 4-5-1 is that they have a set of players who are able to carry that formation. unlike us, henry almost played like a midfielder in 4-5-1 so it seems that we were playing like 4-6-0, let alone our wingers who can cross but the target man isn't willing to head the ball into the net.

think before you say something. it might save you and your country from some embarrassment.

I said all the BIG TEAMS are not playing with one player not One small Fake with money from that russain mobster club like Chelski. And if you think that Chelski Is a big club then you should think before you say somthing. It might save you from some embarrassment. :roll:
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
all? okay ac milan did it before for quite a number of times, barca are still doing it sometimes as well as man utd, liverpool did it... i can go on but i'm having dinner out... yeah man whatever.

the difference really lies in the set of players we have. they're not compatible enough to play 4-5-1 ATM.

chelski were never a big club before but they are NOW, thanks to the money-pumping russian mafia and credits to their glory hunters as well. i won't be surprised if they shrink to their 90's size once they're starting to fall and i'm still waiting for that day to come.

the thought of asking wenger to go back to japan.... :roll:
 

Bossinho

Active Member
first you cant become a big team in one good season like chelski had last year and half of this sesaon. And second you said the teams DID have one in fornt like milan and liverpool and manure, but not any more, they realise that cant work well with one in front.

CHELSKI BIG TEAM THIS WAS THE JOKE OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :) :D :D :D :D :) :lol: :worthy :respect :worthy
 

Tegh

Established Member
We shouldn't bother playing that formation until we have Adebayor, because he's a target man. Henry is not a bloody target man.
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
still trying to deny the fact when it all went wrong our way and it is different for the others. well done.
 

kel varnsen

Established Member
Mbaki Mutahaba said:
you guys gotta have short f* memories. Our 4-4-2 was exposed a lot early this year and at that time the *****ing was we are being overrun in the middle of the park cos most teams were playing us with a 5 man midfield. Now we adapt a 5 man midfield..and of course you only remain with ONE striker. That has made us less effective upfront..but in most games has given us some balance in the midfield. So when you ***** about 4-5-1 and you already know failures with our 4-4-2 was the actual cause to try 4-5-1 what do you suggest?

You want a 4-3-3?

In regards to yesterday's game, It don't matter what f*ing formation you use, if the players are not executing right. we will be punished. If you can't pass or hold the ball. You will lose be it 3-5-2 or 4-6-0 or ...

no, we should have sticked to 4-4-2 and signed a central midfielder who can actually pass the ball and isn't afraid to get stuck in. instead, wenger has decided to change things around completely. 4-5-1 is just nonsense. we don't have wingers. we don't have quality defensive midfielder. we don't have a decent 'lone striker'.
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
Tegh said:
We shouldn't bother playing that formation until we have Adebayor, because he's a target man. Henry is not a bloody target man.

yeah i hope adebayor will prove that he is the man for the 4-5-1 formation or else we just have to strengthen our famous formation.
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
kel varnsen said:
Mbaki Mutahaba said:
you guys gotta have short f* memories. Our 4-4-2 was exposed a lot early this year and at that time the *****ing was we are being overrun in the middle of the park cos most teams were playing us with a 5 man midfield. Now we adapt a 5 man midfield..and of course you only remain with ONE striker. That has made us less effective upfront..but in most games has given us some balance in the midfield. So when you ***** about 4-5-1 and you already know failures with our 4-4-2 was the actual cause to try 4-5-1 what do you suggest?

You want a 4-3-3?

In regards to yesterday's game, It don't matter what f*ing formation you use, if the players are not executing right. we will be punished. If you can't pass or hold the ball. You will lose be it 3-5-2 or 4-6-0 or ...

no, we should have sticked to 4-4-2 and signed a central midfielder who can actually pass the ball and isn't afraid to get stuck in. instead, wenger has decided to change things around completely. 4-5-1 is just nonsense. we don't have wingers. we don't have quality defensive midfielder. we don't have a decent 'lone striker'.

for this one time i agree with you kel and that's what i've been saying all this while, we can't play 4-5-1 because we don't have the type of players who can execute it superbly. that's our major drawback in 4-5-1.
 

longrufus

Established Member
To be honest a 451/433 formation suits the players we have better than a 442. Only if Henry is not the central front man.

A midfield trio of Cesc, Flamini and Diaby would offer us a bit of everything. We could always bring in Hleb to give us even more of an attacking threat.
Reyes, Henry and Walcott could fight for the wide forward positions and RvP or Adebayor could play centrally.
I think with the right combination we could have a very potent efficient system. It would offer us great variety in attack, and defensivly it would protect us a lot more.
 

Tegh

Established Member
True Conor, but whenever we find ourselves in posession, we run centrally, and run into a brick wall. We have no width, and we counter attack so fast that a lot of our players don't join the attack until later. We have no target man, and that is why we fail in this formation. I do think that Walcott and Adebayor would suit that formation though, and give us that extra potency we've lacked thus far.
 

Sigun

Well-Known Member
looking forward to our players coming back and playing this team.

-------lehmann

lauren Toure Sol Cole

Helb Cesc Diaby Reyes

-----RVP Henry
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
Sigun said:
looking forward to our players coming back and playing this team.

-------lehmann

lauren Toure Sol Cole

Helb Cesc Diaby Reyes

-----RVP Henry

if possible, i want him to play as a sub for cesc. he's just so great in the CM.
 

Mbaki Mutahaba

Established Member
kel varnsen said:
no, we should have sticked to 4-4-2 and signed a central midfielder who can actually pass the ball and isn't afraid to get stuck in. instead, wenger has decided to change things around completely. 4-5-1 is just nonsense. we don't have wingers. we don't have quality defensive midfielder. we don't have a decent 'lone striker'.

Would the NEW signing still play alongside Cesc? A move to 4-5-1 was to compensate for cesc (lack of physical presence) in the middle. As long as Cesc is in your FIRST team, a 4-4-2 will make us lightweight in the middle. A combinationof Diaby/Gilberto..can hold the middle but then we lose on the creativity/distribution of Cesc.
 

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