Carabao Cup Final | Arsenal v Manchester City | February 25, 2018 16:30 GMT | Sky Sports

[shootxhakashoot]

He is a legend at Valencia. They consider him the worst manager in their history.

People are allowed to criticise Arsenal and Wenger but if you don't see where Neville's bile comes from, from the years where we were the only team standing up to them, then maybe you're more of a Neville lover than an Arsenal fan.

Whatevs pal. Neville is an annoying little turd but you're clutching at straws thinking he has some sort of beef with Arsenal and that drives his opinions. I couldnt bear to watch anymore come about 60 minutes, the team and manager are completely out of ideas. Nevilles opinion is the players dont care and arent up for it, maybe hes right, maybe hes not but they certainly seem uninspired, its just one take on things.
We lost, played badly and the club is letting down the fans putting that unorganized s**t show out on a football pitch.
Neville is asked for his opinion, he gives it, just because I or you dont like him doesnt mean hes wrong.

 

[Mo Britain]

Whatevs pal. Neville is an annoying little turd but you're clutching at straws thinking he has some sort of beef with Arsenal and that drives his opinions. I couldnt bear to watch anymore come about 60 minutes, the team and manager are completely out of ideas. Nevilles opinion is the players dont care and arent up for it, maybe hes right, maybe hes not but they certainly seem uninspired, its just one take on things.
We lost, played badly and the club is letting down the fans putting that unorganized s**t show out on a football pitch.
Neville is asked for his opinion, he gives it, just because I or you dont like him doesnt mean hes wrong.

We were very poor on the day. It is clear big changes are needed. The players under-performed etc etc. Just have to see my earlier post on how it is for me the worst Arsenal performance in a final I can remember. The club has the worst owner in its history and is unlikely to improve much whilst he is there. No problem with any of that.

But Neville does have beef against Arsenal and I'm not prepared to be a nodding dog in the back of a car agreeing with Arsenal-hating from an Arsenal hater who has basically been a cheat all his career. Have you forgotten how he and his handsome brother kicked Reyes out of English football?

 

[Makingtrax]

It did look bad when Neville started his rant about Ramsey jogging, which he even mentioned again when Ramsey went off.

But Ramsey normally has a terrific engine and is amongst the highest in the EPL for sprints and ground covered.

Can only think the lad is coming back from injury and we are short of top class players so Wenger threw him in. We don't all have Pep's money.

 

[Makingtrax]

We were very poor on the day. It is clear big changes are needed. The players under-performed etc etc. Just have to see my earlier post on how it is for me the worst Arsenal performance in a final I can remember. The club has the worst owner in its history and is unlikely to improve much whilst he is there. No problem with any of that.

But Neville does have beef against Arsenal and I'm not prepared to be a nodding dog in the back of a car agreeing with Arsenal-hating from an Arsenal hater who has basically been a cheat all his career. Have you forgotten how he and his handsome brother kicked Reyes out of English football?

When's the last time you saw a nodding dog in the back of a car

 

[shootxhakashoot]

We were very poor on the day. It is clear big changes are needed. The players under-performed etc etc. Just have to see my earlier post on how it is for me the worst Arsenal performance in a final I can remember. The club has the worst owner in its history and is unlikely to improve much whilst he is there. No problem with any of that.

But Neville does have beef against Arsenal and I'm not prepared to be a nodding dog in the back of a car agreeing with Arsenal-hating from an Arsenal hater who has basically been a cheat all his career. Have you forgotten how he and his handsome brother kicked Reyes out of English football?

All I'm saying is I agree with his opinions that's all. Its not about being a nodding dog as what you express in your posts suggests you agree with a lot of the content of his opinions really as well.
I dont forget anything about Neville or his mong of a brother either, mouthy, lefty little gobsh**es the pair of them.
To suggest they kicked Reyes out of English football is a stretch, the guy was talented but wasnt suited to English football physically. All our players got kicked at that time as we were a threat back then and that was the plan to stop us. The difference was when it became became apparent Reyes couldnt do it physically we got rid and got the likes of Cesc in who was a little (just a little) more resilient.
We have spent the last ten years recruiting players not physically suited to English football but teams have strangely stopped kicking us off the park like they used to. Strange that, probably because there is a risk in that and they simply dont need to anymore.
Do you disagree with Wrighty and Arsenal legends who say similar things as well or is it just hard because it comes from the enemy?

 

[freeglennhelder2]

Mustafi was to blame for the first goal but in truth it was a foul as well. The second goal was offside. Sane was right in front of the keeper.

They said both incidents were reviewed by VAR at the time.

 

[Mo Britain]

It did look bad when Neville started his rant about Ramsey jogging, which he even mentioned again when Ramsey went off.

But Ramsey normally has a terrific engine and is amongst the highest in the EPL for sprints and ground covered.

Can only think the lad is coming back from injury and we are short of top class players so Wenger threw him in. We don't all have Pep's money.

Ramsey should have gone off before that imo. He didn't look up to it physically

All I'm saying is I agree with his opinions that's all. Its not about being a nodding dog as what you express in your posts suggests you agree with a lot of the content of his opinions really as well.
I dont forget anything about Neville or his mong of a brother either, mouthy, lefty little gobsh**es the pair of them.
To suggest they kicked Reyes out of English football is a stretch, the guy was talented but wasnt suited to English football physically. All our players got kicked at that time as we were a threat back then and that was the plan to stop us. The difference was when it became became apparent Reyes couldnt do it physically we got rid and got the likes of Cesc in who was a little (just a little) more resilient.
We have spent the last ten years recruiting players not physically suited to English football but teams have strangely stopped kicking us off the park like they used to. Strange that, probably because there is a risk in that and they simply dont need to anymore.
Do you disagree with Wrighty and Arsenal legends who say similar things as well or is it just hard because it comes from the enemy?

I respect Wrighty because he's an Arsenal fan. Even when I disagree with him I know he loves the club. Neville does not love the Arsenal.

And even Neville is entitled to his opinion! But yesterday was overkill. He was gloating in that despicable whiny voice of his and constantly repeating himself.

 

[CurryFlavoured]

People suggesting Neville has a hidden agenda, when his criticisms literally mirror what most of our fans have been saying. Do we not agree that Xhaka for example has been notoriously lazy/brain-dead tracking back? It's not good enough, but the usual suspects want to deflect. There's an attitude problem at the club. I don't see any passion or character at Arsenal.

 

[Mo Britain]

When's the last time you saw a nodding dog in the back of a car

Round about the same time as the last time we were humiliated in a final?

I don't know... have they gone out fashion like flares and platform shoes?

 

[Makingtrax]

They said both incidents were reviewed by VAR at the time.

Until they get VAR right it's a waste of time. If you bump somebody when they're watching the ball coming down it's a foul. In slow mo Aguero was watching Mustafi not the ball. It was cheating plain and simple, regardless of whether Mustafi was on the wrong side of Aguero.

 

[rich 1990]

According to some, we've never legit lost a game. There's always been some evil circumstance to blame.

 

[Mo Britain]

We lost legit yesterday. Doesn't mean the first goal wasn't a foul though.

 

[Rimaal]

According to some, we've never legit lost a game. There's always been some evil circumstance to blame.

We're great, don't you know. We just happen to be the unluckiest team in the history of the game. Damn those savage gods of fortune and their blatant agenda against Arsenal.

 

[shootxhakashoot]

Ramsey should have gone off before that imo. He didn't look up to it physically


I respect Wrighty because he's an Arsenal fan. Even when I disagree with him I know he loves the club. Neville does not love the Arsenal.

And even Neville is entitled to his opinion! But yesterday was overkill. He was gloating in that despicable whiny voice of his and constantly repeating himself.

you forget we got beaten by Man City, maybe that was why he was upset as more likely he'd dislike them than Arsenal?
Doubt he'd be gloating about us being beaten by them but who knows what goes through that cretins head.
A lot of the players didnt look up for it physically or mentally but who did we have in reserve, maybe Elneny for Ramsey would have been better but doubt many would have been happy about that?
Strange confused tactics allround on the day anyway, was a sort of half and half. Half wanting to defend by putting in an extra defender, half wanting to attack by not playing a more defensive minded midfielder.
Either way mentally the team team didnt look prepared and yes a few of the players, Ramsey, Aubameyang, Monreal, Özil were clearly not up for it physically either.

 

[CurryFlavoured]

Until they get VAR right it's a waste of time. If you bump somebody when they're watching the ball coming down it's a foul. In slow mo Aguero was watching Mustafi not the ball. It was cheating plain and simple, regardless of whether Mustafi was on the wrong side of Aguero.

Utter utter delusion. Mustafi is running backwards into Aguero who holds his ground, he's well in his right to do that. It's a contact sport, and technically Mustafi runs into Aguero. Mustafi's lack of awareness cost us there.

Don't bloody dare blame this on the ref. Excuse culture in overdrive

 

[Makingtrax]

Round about the same time as the last time we were humiliated in a final?

I don't know... have they gone out fashion like flares and platform shoes?

Life's passing you by bro. They have robot dogs now. Bet you can get one that scampers around your car and p*sses on the back seat.

 

[Mo Britain]

you forget we got beaten by Man City, maybe that was why he was upset as more likely he'd dislike them than Arsenal?
Doubt he'd be gloating about us being beaten by them but who knows what goes through that cretins head.
A lot of the players didnt look up for it physically or mentally but who did we have in reserve, maybe Elneny for Ramsey would have been better but doubt many would have been happy about that?
Strange confused tactics allround on the day anyway, was a sort of half and half. Half wanting to defend by putting in an extra defender, half wanting to attack by not playing a more defensive minded midfielder.
Either way mentally the team team didnt look prepared and yes a few of the players, Ramsey, Aubameyang, Monreal, Özil were clearly not up for it physically either.

Interesting thought. Let's see what happens next time Citeh destroy Yanited?

But for most of his career we were the enemy, they just laughed at Citeh then.

 

[Mo Britain]

Life's passing you by bro. They have robot dogs now. Bet you can get one that scampers around your car and p*sses on the back seat.

Can you get a robot dog to bite Neville?

 

[Mo Britain]

Utter utter delusion. Mustafi is running backwards into Aguero who holds his ground, he's well in his right to do that. It's a contact sport, and technically Mustafi runs into Aguero. Mustafi's lack of awareness cost us there.

Don't bloody dare blame this on the ref. Excuse culture in overdrive

I watched it several times. Every time I saw Aguero looking at Mustafi, looking at the referee and them moving towards Mustafi with the intention of checking him and gaining an advantage.

Mustafi cost us there and we were well beaten but that, for me, is still a foul.

 

[CurryFlavoured]

Absolutely not a foul. It doesn't matter if he's looking at Mustafi, the ref or Mother Theresa. It's not a push, it's not even a motion towards Mustafi. It's standing your ground while our ape defender runs into him like a ****ing idiot.

If that's a foul, we should just take all forms of contact out of the sport. It was excellent (fair) play by Aguero.

 

[c00lguy]

Usually in that situation it's the striker backing into the defender. In this case the roles were reversed. It should never happen. Defending basics.

Mustafi didn't get back quickly enough from the set piece and he misjudged the flight of the ball. He cried foul to hide from his mistakes. Weak mentality imo.