- Thread starter
- #5,601
Why you post this in here?
Why you post this in here?
How would you see them lining up in the same team?
I dont get it
Martinelli - Jesus - Saka
XX - Øde
Rice - Caicedo
Gabriel - Saliba - White
Ramsdale
If Pepi is playing regularly, Balogun will definitely leave so he can stay ahead of him in the pecking order. Only connection I can see.I dont get it
Well, a man can dream. Really would like to see that lineup if they both come. And not like some inverted ****ed up out of position bullshit, but the real WM with two proper halfbacks that have the engines to cover the whole pitch.
Well, a man can dream. Really would like to see that lineup if they both come. And not like some inverted ****ed up out of position bullshit, but the real WM with two proper halfbacks that have the engines to cover the whole pitch.
Guess it's more likely we continue to invert Zinchenko though. Starting out as LB but this in possession
Martinelli - Jesus - Saka
Rice - Øde
Zinny - Caicedo
Gabriel - Saliba - White
Ramsdale
Partey & Xhaka worked for most of last season pretty well. I know what you mean tho.Rice and Caicedo together isn't going to work, need a regista like Zubi.
I would go Rice as the 8 and Caicedo in the Partey role. Honestly, if that was our midfield, the amount of transition opportunities we would create as well as the way we could pen teams in. It would be devastating. One can hope.
I would go the opposite. So Rice CDM, Caicedo LCM.
Reason being Rice’ best attribute is intercepting and driving with the ball, attributes suited to a DM. Whereas Caicedo could be a weapon when counter pressing high up the pitch. He hunts the ball down. He’s also a lot better than Rice at chasing back to win the ball. Feel he’d be better at covering Zinchenko.
Also, the further forward you are, the more nimble you need to be in tight spaces. This suits Caicedo more than Rice aswell.
Definitely can see both swapping in a game. Ødegaard movement also will be adjusted based on who is playing as 8Personally, I disagree. I don't think we want the DM to drive out our own half, I think we want our CM to be doing that. Xhaka has many opportunities to drive and simply can't.
They can both press but Caicedo is simply better on the ball. He is more agile, he positions his body better when receiving.
However, it is an agree to disagree situation. I have said from the very beginning that Arteta wants both because they can both play 8 and 6. The fact that there is a debate about who is best where proves it.
It allows for more positional rotation and patterns. I can easily see them swapping in the same game. Rice holds Caicedo goes and vice versa. It poses a different threat.
Well, a man can dream. Really would like to see that lineup if they both come. And not like some inverted ****ed up out of position bullshit, but the real WM with two proper halfbacks that have the engines to cover the whole pitch.
Guess it's more likely we continue to invert Zinchenko though. Starting out as LB but this in possession
Martinelli - Jesus - Saka
Rice - Øde
Zinny - Caicedo
Gabriel - Saliba - White
Ramsdale
Also, Rice has been the left sided CM for West Ham for some time, and for England when they double pivot. His heat maps show him barely setting foot on the right side of the pitch. In the current system he is undoubtedly a left 8, as it is a primarily off the ball role with some transition responsibilities.Personally, I disagree. I don't think we want the DM to drive out our own half, I think we want our CM to be doing that. Xhaka has many opportunities to drive and simply can't.
They can both press but Caicedo is simply better on the ball. He is more agile, he positions his body better when receiving.
However, it is an agree to disagree situation. I have said from the very beginning that Arteta wants both because they can both play 8 and 6. The fact that there is a debate about who is best where proves it.
It allows for more positional rotation and patterns. I can easily see them swapping in the same game. Rice holds Caicedo goes and vice versa. It poses a different threat.
I personally don't think we'll see Caicedo as the 8. Zinny I'd agree on, I'd even put him there right away, but inverting from LB to LAM is a long way and we'd have to give up having four at the backYes this is possible, but you are also likely to see Zinchenko or Caicedo as the #8, with Rice deeper in the average positioning. A more balanced split, with defenders in defensive positions and vice versa.
Doesnt really matter though, because its about positioning on the pitch depending on the game situation. You could see White moving into midfield, Ødegaard into the defensive midfield 2, Caicedo out wide, and same with Zinchenko. The main thing here is that the players understand the different positional requirements and can adapt their game to perform the needed role.
How would you see them lining up in the same team?
I guess the proper reply here should be "I don't, we have Partey"
Martinelli - Jesus - Saka
XX - Øde
Rice - Caicedo
Gabriel - Saliba - White
Ramsdale