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EPL: Manchester city vs Arsenal - 08/05/2016 17:00

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redanddread

The stone that the builders refuse
People are still peddling this fallacy of CL football allowing us to attract players. Where were the signings last summer. Regardless of what we do this summer, we are already a window behind.

haha - too effing right bro!
 

Jury

A-M's drunk uncle
All these fans are so cringe now. Wish arsenalfantv would just go. It's basically fans feeding off of each other's anger nowadays.

Supporting Arsenal is a choice and its supposed to be for enjoyment. If it makes you that angry or depressed it's time to look deeper than Arsenal/Wenger for the answer to your problems
Oi oi Steady madam! We didn't all have a choice! It wasn't like walking into a house of ill repute and saying, "Agghh **** it, you've got teeth, you'll do". Or even a sweet shop. These are passionate fans that pay good money for a product they like to indulge in, and right now, the product is ****e. That's what the club have done to fans. That's what they've made this now. We're consumers. They're exploiting their loyalty, without which, the bastards would cease to exist. They can't be allowed to have it both ways.
 

bingobob

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Disappointing to see fans fighting but at least it shows there is a split there and it cannot be good for the club going forward.

Wenger either has to deliver or leave. An important summer coming up once again.
 

BobP

Memri Fan
You know what our problem is?

We can't out score teams, nor can we keep them from scoring.

Need to do both to be a great team, doing one or the other is usually enough, but we can't do either.
 

ScotVieira

Established Member
I'm beginning to think Wenger should just go. He divides opinions because we love him and he just p*sses all over us for our loyalty.

How on earth can any manager explain putting Ramsey beside El-Neny to play against City when we have Coq on the bench? If Ramsey is too big for Wenger to drop, Wenger should just eff off and let another manager with balls do the job and try winning us trophies. It should not be enough just to make profits for the board, the supporters deserve to be happy too.
 

Lady_Gooner

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Oi oi Steady madam! We didn't all have a choice! It wasn't like walking into a house of ill repute and saying, "Agghh **** it, you've got teeth, you'll do". Or even a sweet shop. These are passionate fans that pay good money for a product they like to indulge in, and right now, the product is ****e. That's what the club have done to fans. That's what they've made this now. We're consumers. They're exploiting their loyalty, without which, the bastards would cease to exist. They can't be allowed to have it both ways.

Everything in life is a choice. I love Arsenal just as much but if it's causing you to feel depressed and angry ALL the time, there's a serious serious problem
I don't think this is all about the club anyway. These Arsenal Fan TV guys have become about being famous. They probably wouldn't notice we had a new manager as DT would be too busy yelling at his computer screen for views
 

rich 1990

Not A Big Believer In Diversity
Everything in life is a choice. I love Arsenal just as much but if it's causing you to feel depressed and angry ALL the time, there's a serious serious problem
I don't think this is all about the club anyway. These Arsenal Fan TV guys have become about being famous. They probably wouldn't notice we had a new manager as DT would be too busy yelling at his computer screen for views

What about dying? Unless you chuck yourself off a bridge , that ain't a choice.
 

kopzilla

Always Negative
Absolutely pathetic that stewards took banners off our fans whether you agree with them or not. Our own stewards shouldn't have any authority in an away ground.

Exactly...so we can use banners at our home games but not away?Strange.
 

Jury

A-M's drunk uncle
Everything in life is a choice. I love Arsenal just as much but if it's causing you to feel depressed and angry ALL the time, there's a serious serious problem
I don't think this is all about the club anyway. These Arsenal Fan TV guys have become about being famous. They probably wouldn't notice we had a new manager as DT would be too busy yelling at his computer screen for views

I dont think they're angry or sad all the time. They have lives.. I think! But yes, it is also about fame to a certain extent. Doesn't make what they're saying any less valid though.
 

General

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Just to add a bit of context to this game, we are the only team in the top 5 not to pick up all 3points at the Etihad. Leicester, Sp**s and United have all gone there and won. I think taking a point is a useful result but it was clearly not by design and out organisation was dire. We almost lost it from an impossible position when Bonny was left unmarked in the box and he hit the bar. Wenger's approach and that nauseating double fist pump at the end of the match tell you everything you need to know about the mentality of this club. If teams like Swansea, Southampton, Sunderland etc had come to the Emirates with this mentality they wouldn't have got anything out of the game this season.
 

Gooner n Proud

a.k.a. nasri_8 and Voice of Flamini
Just to add a bit of context to this game, we are the only team in the top 5 not to pick up all 3points at the Etihad. Leicester, Sp**s and United have all gone there and won. I think taking a point is a useful result but it was clearly not by design and out organisation was dire. We almost lost it from an impossible position when Bonny was left unmarked in the box and he hit the bar. Wenger's approach and that nauseating double fist pump at the t,end of the match tell you everything you need to know about the mentality of this club. If teams like Swansea, Southampton, Sunderland etc had come to the Emirates with this mentality they wouldn't have got anything out of the game this season.

Yer we started the game totally on the backfoot and our midfield were poor, mainly Ransey but Elneny too was underwhelming defensively. It wasn't until Wilshere came on that our midfield began to have more of a foothold and organisation but even then we were overpowered and outran by Fernando-Fernandinho pairing.

United, Sp**s and Leicester all won at the Etihad but in all three of those games the hosts effort wasn't at 100 percent as there sole ambition was to progress in Europe and secondly there midfield partnership in those matches included Toure who tends to leave plenty of space for the oppositions attacks and De Bruyne was injured thus missed these key games.
 

M18CTID

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City are such a **** club. Just seeing that pic of the empty stands makes me angry. Their nothing club is only still in this division because some disgusting state backed **** decided to make it so and now they're apparently better than this.

The whole club and its fans are absolute ****

That's quite a sweeping generalisation you make of our club and in particular, the fans, and it does have me wondering just how many City fans you know in real life. May I offer up something in mitigation?

Firstly, like Arsenal and pretty much every other club, our fans don't have a say in who owns the club. As fans our job is to support the team and I for one always back the players and manager vocally, never once booing them off the park. I've seen City play at around 100 different grounds in my 26 years as a season ticket holder and I and many others who were there on Sunday have seen far worse times than a 2-2 draw at home to Arsenal that put a significant dent in our top 4 hopes. However, with changing fortunes come changing expectations and that afflicts every single fanbase. That's why there's been a certain amount of apathy at the way our season has petered out and seeing players strolling through games when they should be putting more effort in is only ever going to have a negative impact on fans regardless of the division that the team is playing in. Ergo the manager who has had a huge amount of support over the past 3 years and was being backed vocally during the game on Sunday too. Ironically, that was one of our better league performances of late but there was a natural feeling of deflation when Arsenal made it 2-2 and we couldn't regain the lead. With that handing the initiative back to our local rivals (which luckily for us they've subsequently handed back to us), there was bound to be an air of disappointment about the place. It's the equivalent of Arsenal looking like being trumped by Sp**s for a top 4 spot.

With that in mind, I'm not surprised so many fans bailed out at the end, and it isn't unique. I was at Anfield in 2003 when Liverpool were chasing a CL spot. It was the penultimate game of the season and we were in mid-table with nothing to play for. Liverpool took the lead but we equalised with an Anelka penalty and he went on and scored our winner in the last minute. Instead of hanging around for the traditional end of season lap of honour (or lap of "dishonour" as a mate of mine heard a Liverpool fan call it) and giving the players a send-off ahead of their do-or-die clash at Chelsea the following week, the vast majority of them piled out of the exits. In any case, whenever City do these end of season shenanigans they always tend to drag it out and keep fans waiting with players going back in to get changed, and getting their families out on the pitch, and some of the other club sides doing a lap of honour first, etc. Also, I didn't hear any announcements during the match of them doing anything for Pellegrini after the game (unlike last year when they did something for Lampard and it was well publicised and pretty much everyone stayed back despite the fact we'd not won anything) and while we should've reasonably expected it due to it being his last home game the result kind of overshadowed things. It's the first time I can remember that I didn't hang around but I'd already made arrangements to meet my mates straight after for a few end of season pints and probably wouldn't have stayed even if we won. That doesn't make me any less loyal or appreciative than the average fan of another club (I think getting up at 4.30AM in the morning this season to catch 3 trains to Norwich for a 12.45PM kick-off is a better indication of my loyalty to City to be honest), and as someone who is a member of a fan group that helps with trying to improve the atmosphere on match-days I'm often in the ground earlier than most helping out with displays, etc, so I've dedicated even more of my spare time to backing the team this season compared to previous years.

If that makes us fans absolute **** then fair enough but you need to remember that Arsenal fans have been at each other's throats over the Wenger situation this season and I've rarely seen a fanbase so split. However, that doesn't make me think that all Arsenal fans are **** - it's a sensitive subject and I can see the arguments on both sides. If you want the definition of a **** City fan, look no further than the middle-aged fan that punched a 12 year old Arsenal fan outside the ground afterwards.
 
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