Wage caps would have to be imposed nationally via each club's respective FAs, surely based on the financial strength of their league. UEFA can not place the same wage cap on the Primiera Lige as it does on the PL, I wouldn't think.
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European Super League
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Wage caps would have to be imposed nationally via each club's respective FAs, surely based on the financial strength of their league. UEFA can not place the same wage cap on the Primiera Lige as it does on the PL, I wouldn't think.
Having smelt the coffee a wee bit it's abundantly clear that you're not gonna get government legislation, 50+1 or any such sweeping changes to the fundamental ownership structure of English football. I mean very obviously these people own the clubs, you can't just wish that away or requisition them, and even if you could requisition them there is 0% chance that a hyper neoliberal conservative government is going to be the one to do it. The most you might get, if you're lucky, is mandatory fan consultations.
So clearly the core of the super league idea isn't going away, it's not been defeated, it's just been heavily wounded by a laughably bad PR fiasco. This probably forces the decision-makers, who thought they were the smartest people in the room, to actually go out and hire the smartest people in the room, who over the course of the next couple of years will work on and develop the idea.
Eventually it will come back, with much better branding, with much better preparation, and with all the necessary big clubs actually on board (this idea goes nowhere without Bayern for example), and people will accept it.
So clearly the core of the super league idea isn't going away, it's not been defeated, it's just been heavily wounded by a laughably bad PR fiasco. This probably forces the decision-makers, who thought they were the smartest people in the room, to actually go out and hire the smartest people in the room, who over the course of the next couple of years will work on and develop the idea.
Eventually it will come back, with much better branding, with much better preparation, and with all the necessary big clubs actually on board (this idea goes nowhere without Bayern for example), and people will accept it.
They just need to tweak the idea slightly. Have a 30 team competition with the 15 founding members or whatever it is and then have 15 spaces based on league qualification for teams in the top leagues (minor leagues will be tossed aside because nobody will care about them). Split the teams into two groups where they play each other once and then the top 4 in each group go into straight knockout quarter finals (highest finishing team gets home advantage all the way to the final).
Their mistake was making it a closed shop. If they open it up a little bit and give other teams something to play for nobody will care. UEFA getting ****ed in the process won’t really bother too many.
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
Agree, except for 50+1 which would have all owners leave entirely, eventually.
It's easy to do actually, but we know the world of power, so it isnt
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
Sharing interest in the sense of having their own uni-dimensional power play and aren't really interested in corporation with Americans.
It's soo obvious that City was dragged into it first because they didnt want to be left behind.
Why should City change anything ?
Rich as ****, not doing much but being born rich and want to have a toy and be the best with it.
Of course, at the same time, they are likely to make less money with the ESL, not irrelevant.
The others wants to make money and nothing else. The ESL broke down because of City and indirectly before with PSG because it didnt fit their own wishes.
Similarly, Bayern is just being a bit more clever, nothing heroic there.
Yeah, Arab = Bad, we all get that
But...
Why then didn't the Germans ( Bayern, BVB ) go along with their Anglo-Saxon brothers ( Arsenal, Man U, LFC ) ?
Or the Iberians ( Porto ) side with their siblings ( Real, Atlético, Barça ) ?
Funny old World, isn't it?
Indeed
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
Yeah, Arab = Bad, we all get that
But...
Why then didn't the Germans ( Bayern, BVB ) go along with their Anglo-Saxon brothers ( Arsenal, Man U, LFC ) ?
Or the Iberians ( Porto ) side with their siblings ( Real, Atlético, Barça ) ?
Funny old World, isn't it?
Not talking about every Arab, that's pretty convenient, isnt it ?
I have many friends who are.
Really not feeling responding to something like that because it's so cheap.
Bayern would've joined eventually if it happened, their board even showed signs of will over the last years, it's just a VERY different world over here without owners.
The Bundesliga isn't at the state of the PL yet, there no 6 men deciding the fate of 6 clubs.
True, I also think there'll be more joint leagues. So Beneliga will be a thing where the Belgian and Dutch leagues merge. Potentially the Scottish and English leagues could merge. Spain and Portugal could merge, France and Switzerland, Germany and Austria etc etc. So the best teams in the minor leagues don't get excluded. The problem there is you absolutely kill teams like Kilmarnock and such, but it looks like that's just the direction football is going in.
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@Juan Matas Beard, bottom left, forgot his sunglasses.
Mo Britain
Doom Monger
Actually there is a reason. First you'd surely have to ask why is there a need for an FA? The answer is the same and it is what serves as "insulation" against ideas like the ESL being pushed through without discussion or opposition. The Premier League represents the clubs in it, whoever they might be as it is not a closed shop, and the FA in theory defends the entire "football family". This ensures decisions are taken which don't leave some clubs out of the picture.
UEFA (then FIFA) replicate this at higher levels.
Mo Britain
Doom Monger
Marca are totally pro Madrid.
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
I get your points, but why isn't it just possible to have the higher levels representing the leagues as a whole come together for big decisions to avoid this higher intermediary just acting in their own interests ?
Of course, humans are prone to do that in every possible hierarchical structure, it's part of life, but surely, it's better as what's presented with the UEFA.
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He looks like Kane from WWE ffs. But fair play to these warriors, I will tell my grandchildren about them one day.
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
Sorry @Vicki if my response seemed harsh, I just didn't like this notion as I read it.
Don't think you meant to be insulting.
Don't think you meant to be insulting.
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This one's my favourite.
Mo Britain
Doom Monger
If that Perez interview had been a real interview and not a public fawning someone would have, at least, asked him to remind them of how many trophies the Sp uds have won in the last 20 years.
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****ing legacy fans.
