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Is The Premier League Tougher Than It Used To Be?

Is It?


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Mraven

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Mate, Watford have been a selling club for the last few years. In fact the last few years they’ve spent £94m, sold £126m and made £31m profit. Think they can afford wages.

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You said Watford spent 31mill in 15/16. That is wrong. They spent more than 70mill. Of course they got relegated and didn’t spend much in the last years. Check your data
 

Mraven

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Their owners have been forking out of their own pockets recently but it’s not sustainable. They’re making little impression in the league and the revenues of the big 6 is getting wider every year. The gap between Arsenal and say West Ham revenues has never been wider in the history of football.

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why is it not sustainable if it’s from the owners? You think the owners just throw in money without thinking about whether they will be getting something back from it? Look at City and Chelsea. They made it sustainable
 

Makingtrax

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why is it not sustainable if it’s from the owners? You think the owners just throw in money without thinking about whether they will be getting something back from it? Look at City and Chelsea. They made it sustainable
City and Chelsea are getting huge returns though because by winning big they’ve become global brands. Their revenues are enormous now. Like Abramovic, Mansour made a huge billion pound investment over the first few years and it’s paid off. Not sure with FFP owners can make those sorts of investments now. Villa may win nothing and just be a drain on their owners. For how long will they be willing to fork out large sums?
 

Riou

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The Sexuals will tell you it's because he's in a weak league . . . even though he's balling against Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. :lol:

Those players all play for the same team, though.

How can you be one of the main guys that calls the English league weak, but are bigging up the French one :lol:
 

CaseUteinberger

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Their owners have been forking out of their own pockets recently but it’s not sustainable. They’re making little impression in the league and the revenues of the big 6 is getting wider every year. The gap between Arsenal and say West Ham revenues has never been wider in the history of football.

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How the hell can ManU make that much money? Are they harvesting organs in Preston and selling them to Asia?
 

Makingtrax

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Those players all play for the same team, though.

How can you be one of the main guys that calls the English league weak, but are bigging up the French one :lol:
What made you think that? I think the English league is the strongest in Europe bro. Big confusion here, between the English league's overall standing in Europe and competition within the English league, as the top 6 pull away from the rest in terms of revenues.

The Sexuals struggled to grasp this concept as they tried to to construct a case as to why Tets has been a lot worse than Unai and Arsène.
 

avenellroad

John Radford’s son
How the hell can ManU make that much money? Are they harvesting organs in Preston and selling them to Asia?
I’m sure their adidas deal alone makes them £90million a year. They’ve leveraged their position in the Premiership years and have arguably the biggest fan base in the world, so can understand why they make as much as they do.
 

Dj_sds -

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What made you think that? I think the English league is the strongest in Europe bro. Big confusion here, between the English league's overall standing in Europe and competition within the English league, as the top 6 pull away from the rest in terms of revenues.

The Sexuals struggled to grasp this concept as they tried to to construct a case as to why Tets has been a lot worse than Unai and Arsène.

The fact that you are talking about the top 6 also proves that the league has gotten stronger. There was no talk of a top 6 seven to ten years ago.
 

Makingtrax

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The fact that you are talking about the top 6 also proves that the league has gotten stronger. There was no talk of a top 6 seven to ten years ago.
These are the most consistently successful teams in the division. Not only that, but they boast the biggest stadiums, broadest fanbases and, as a result, the healthiest bank accounts. It’s been that way since Mansour took over City in 2008/9.

There’s plenty of articles in the web about the financial gap in revenues between the top 6 and the rest growing ever wider. Swiss Ramble is a great source. For those 6, with the right managers, they should blow the rest of the league away in a sort of mini league. And if you look at the tables over the last 10 years, by and large they have. Just the very occasional interruption by Everton, Leicester, etc.

What changed in 2019/20 is not that the league was getting harder for this bunch but Sp**s and Arsenal sacked two top managers and have struggled to replace them. Unai didn’t fall out of the top 6 but Arteta did twice. Any consistent rise of the middle teams to challenge the top 6 is a complete myth and put about as an excuse.
 

Riou

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Put simply...it's around the same level it's always been (at least since around the late 1990s) only a complete bellend would think otherwise.
 

GDeep™

League is very weak
Jamie Carragher said the mid 2000’s were the strongest because you had various English teams reach the CL final nearly 8 years in a row or something.

Clubs like Middlesbrough and Fulham reached UEFA Cup finals etc.
 

Makingtrax

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Jamie Carragher said the mid 2000’s were the strongest because you had various English teams reach the CL final nearly 8 years in a row or something.

Clubs like Middlesbrough and Fulham reached UEFA Cup finals etc.
This Europe comparison by Arteta stans is a complete red herring. 1) It's got nothing to do with competition within the EPL and 2) as you correctly pointed out, our superiority has cycled up and down over the years.
 

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