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USArsenal said:
Forget their goal scoring records as it indicates barely anything. Henry and Trezeguet weren't convincing on the International stage, mainly because the French NT has been run by a bunch of cocksuckers. They stifled all of their attacking riches by playing a very defensive formation consisting of 2 DM's. All of their attackers have flattered to decieve other than Ribery and Zidane, both of whom were fortunate enough to be given free roles, thus allowing them to excell. The rest of the attackers such as Henry, Pires, Trezeguet, Dugarry, Djorkaeff, Anelka have been nothing but pawns, and that is exactly why they haven't been able to replicate their club form on the French NT stage. Benzema is no different.,,
Meatwad said:
Nice prediction.
Ehm. Henry broke Platini's record as the best goalscorer of all time for France a few years back. It's downright wrong to say that he hasn't delivered for their national team. Same goes for a whole bunch of the other names on your list.outlaw_member said:I'd be lying if I said that I didn't see this coming from a mile.
Doesn't mean a thing though, does it? Because a. Platini has a higher GPG ratio and b. if you really look at Henry's goal-scoring record for France it's not all that impressive.Klaus Daimler said:
Henry had a key role, playing as the main striker and in the World Cup in 2002 he was even their main player.thegame24 said:
Doesn't mean much in itself though does it? You can only score against what's put in front of you and France haven't met real powerhouse teams terribly often, especially not in competitive matches. Add to that their underwhelming team performances (which certainly wasn't because of Henry) for the last six years, the world cup run apart, and another picture emerges. A lot of the goals he's scored against those "lesser" teams have been very important for a struggling France too.ibby said:
Klaus Daimler said:
I can't find stats but be careful what you say, for example Zidane who you would have thought would have millions of assists in the World Cup only has 3, 2 of which being dead ball situations.
I can't find those statistics so I take your word for it. It's always about circumstances though. And fact is that France has been a very underperforming team for years. Henry has often stood out as their best, or one of their best, performers during that time.ibby said:
Yeah, I'm aware of his record. Ironically I think both of them were to Henry; the only two goals Henry has ever scored while being assisted by Zidane.ibby said:
Klaus Daimler said:
I corrected myself. 3 assists, one to Vieira against Spain in 2006, one to Henry against Brazil in 2006 and one against South Africa to Dugarry in 1998. Still poor.
Cheers.ibby said:
I take it you mean Henry since he was the one scoring for France in that game. I'm fairly sure he had two assists to Henry in total, but nonetheless it's an astonishly bad record. I think it reflects part of France's problem though; they've always had excellent individuals but they only had excellent individuals who played well together as a team on the big scene at two occasions: in -98 and -00. It's unsurprising really that they went all the way to the World cup final in -06 when a lot of the old players came out of retirement to help them out. It was still the same boring France with inept tactics and little creativity but at the same time they knew eachother inside and out.ibby said:
