Thats the spirit guys lets all get behind him and if he plays on sunday give him the best sending off any player has ever had and who knows it might change the whole situation. Anyway l'm happy that some of us appreciate all he has done for us and are wishing him well .I AM SO PROUD TO BE AN ARSENAL FAN.
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And if you read through my posts you will notice that i have nothing against paddy - i've thanked him for 8 great,great years at the club and i agree that he's a legend in his own right - the only reason i am not 100% supporting his decision is because of the lies that came at the very end of his career.
If you can tolerate being lied to by your very own captain - then good for you - but i cannot do that and i hope you respect my bloody opinion !
If you can tolerate being lied to by your very own captain - then good for you - but i cannot do that and i hope you respect my bloody opinion !
calvinngai88
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Calm down, pals. Let's not get personal over such small things. Different people have different opinions.
Sammer
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In the end, what pisses me off is the f*cking pending situation.
This is what makes me sick..
This is what makes me sick..
arsenal98
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One shouldn´t be too sure that all this is an initiative of PV´s. Whatever the club says in public, backroom politics might have determined that now is the time to get the most amount of money out of a transfer. The club dare not state that "yes we want to sell coz we get a good deal" anyway, would cause uproar, wouldn´t it. Easier to blame a player who was top of the range already 5 years ago and could ages ago have transferred to the moon if he wanted to.
This is why we have this forum. to put our views across.
As you say "personally"that is the way you chose to view it.you select what you want to believe.if the player wants to leave he will leave irregardless who the manager is he stayed because he wanted to.
have you never changed your mind in your whole entire life???so did he say we were not capable of winning the CL??can l pliz get that quote..by saying he wants he a new challenge it would have weakened our negotiating position don't u understand that.at the moment we are holding out for the maximum we wouldn't have been able to do this had he said that.can u understand why he has not said anything.
job
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The 1st of september is a long, long time away :cry:
lol exactly ! a couple of mins ago you said that people like me were 'wrong' !!
There it is ... :?
We do not know that - for all we know it could have been purely because of the money we offered. I dont believe that, however - i believe it was Arsène who persuaded him to stay.
Yes but i have never promised someone something and changed my mind a month later.
Alot of people have said that but dont you think its pretty obvious that he wants to leave ??? He has denied the rumours straight after they came out for the past 2 summers - isnt it a little ironic how he hasnt said anything this summer ? Madrid KNOW he wants to leave - theyr not stupid - they have noticed how he has not said anything about the subject and how he denied to comment when asked - i think everyone knows by now that he's interested in a move.
Besides - why do you think we'r supposedly getting 23 million for him ? Everyone knows thats way below his real valuation - but we'r getting that much because madrid know he wants to leave. So if he wasnt saying anything so we could get more money for him - then he failed in his mission.
R9
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Jose_Reyes_2004 said:
In that case, yes he should play, but without the armbond.
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Anonymous
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i agree with jose 2004 
i think you lot are making up things to make vieira look not so bad coming out of this situation- for example ur saying hes not talking to try and get us more money lol, if he wanted to get more money for us he could say something like "i wont leave the club unless a bid of 30million comes in and benefits the club" lol simple as that - keeping his silence shows he wants to keep his options open so that he doesnt look like a **** if real + arsenal dont agree a fee for him he can still be in the arsenal fan's hearts - aswell i think hes made an arse of that part too as hes not in my heart anymore :cry:
i think you lot are making up things to make vieira look not so bad coming out of this situation- for example ur saying hes not talking to try and get us more money lol, if he wanted to get more money for us he could say something like "i wont leave the club unless a bid of 30million comes in and benefits the club" lol simple as that - keeping his silence shows he wants to keep his options open so that he doesnt look like a **** if real + arsenal dont agree a fee for him he can still be in the arsenal fan's hearts - aswell i think hes made an arse of that part too as hes not in my heart anymore :cry:
R9
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Sigun said:
I would love this one. ;D
CMS
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Sammer
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CMS said:
He won´t leave until him or the club has made an official statement.
calvinngai88
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Same here. 
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Scottish Lass said:i agree with jose 2004
ps i still dont think he'll go
Madrid might think they know but they have been left high and dry twice by the same player after the thought they had him so the aren't sure themselves.has he stated he wants to leave to any media?no!
we have not accepted any bid therefore his mission is still on. Arsène said we've not accepted any bid therefore pv4 has done his job so far we are still holding out for a better offer.hes still an arsenal player 72hrs after the so called deal was agreed draw your own conclusions from that.
RocktheCasbah
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As I said here what seems like ages ago, Arsenal didn't have to be bullied into selling Vieira to Madrid. Porto proved that with Carvalho, Madrid wanted him, but they wanted him at a price Porto wouldn't accept, that's why Chelsea got him. And as Vieira would never go to Chelsea... well, again I'm thinking Vieira may stay.
calvinngai88
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I've always held on the possibility of Vieira staying. No thoughts of him leaving at all.
Sol man
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It seems like he will stay now. He needs to say his intentions before this sunday.
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There is no doubt what so ever that Vieira wants to leave Arsenal. Im 110% sure of that.
If he didnt want to leave he would have come out and said he wanted to stay, see Freddie, Henry, Nistelrooy etc.
His silence is probably down to giving us a stronger hand over Madrid.
It looks obvious now that the two clubs are some way apart on the fee, over five million quid.
In the end I think we will be forced into accepting less than we want. At the end of the day there is no point in keeping a player who wants to leave the club.
Add to this he is 28, nealy 29 and his value is only going to fall and fall.
If we are going to sell it is this summer. He wants to ago. We will HAVE to sell him imo.
Maybe we can add in some clauses like we get extra if they win the CL and he cant se sold to Chelsea or the mancs.
Then there seems to be the problems over his wage demands. This is what I dont like. I thought this was his dream move? He should take what ever Madrid offer him.
What can you do with 100k a week that you cant with 80, or even 60? Greed.
If it all does collapse then I wont know what to think. Vieira wont be viewed in a god like manner anymore. I know several die hard gooners who are very pissed off with him.
Im sure he would still give 100%, but it just wouldnt be the same.
If he didnt want to leave he would have come out and said he wanted to stay, see Freddie, Henry, Nistelrooy etc.
His silence is probably down to giving us a stronger hand over Madrid.
It looks obvious now that the two clubs are some way apart on the fee, over five million quid.
In the end I think we will be forced into accepting less than we want. At the end of the day there is no point in keeping a player who wants to leave the club.
Add to this he is 28, nealy 29 and his value is only going to fall and fall.
If we are going to sell it is this summer. He wants to ago. We will HAVE to sell him imo.
Maybe we can add in some clauses like we get extra if they win the CL and he cant se sold to Chelsea or the mancs.
Then there seems to be the problems over his wage demands. This is what I dont like. I thought this was his dream move? He should take what ever Madrid offer him.
What can you do with 100k a week that you cant with 80, or even 60? Greed.
If it all does collapse then I wont know what to think. Vieira wont be viewed in a god like manner anymore. I know several die hard gooners who are very pissed off with him.
Im sure he would still give 100%, but it just wouldnt be the same.
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