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I haven't really put much thought into constructing this thread, so there won't be a 1000 word essay to start us off.
Just looking for thoughts really.
Basically we haven't won anything since Cesc was given the team and the closest we have come is the champions league final (forgetting the Carling one for the moment) and the good league run last year.
Alot of discussion about the current lot revolves around getting the best out of Cesc but shouldn't we be wondering about what is the best for Arsenal FC?
Some people believe that Cesc needs 'a Vieira' next to him but in my opinion Cesc is supposed to be that player. Vieira was never a water carrier, he was the dominant partner who made things happen, which I'm assuming is what Cesc is supposed to be. If we put another one next to him, how will that balance the team?
How far do we go in waiting for his 'explosion of power' that Wenger mentioned a couple of years back? Or for his defensive game to improve (a point that he openly made about his ability after the last Spain game)?
Is cesc's inability to defend properly counter-prodcutive?
How about his lack of pace? we know it isn't when he has the ball but what about when he is chasing a winger back to the byline?
How exactly do we get the best from Cesc without sacrificing other players positives?
These for me are the key issues but feel free to throw in whatever you like. Please try to refrain from simply saying that Cesc is the best midfielder in the world and in our team; that's not really what the discussion is about but I'll try to make a clearer post once (and if) it gets going.
Just looking for thoughts really.
Basically we haven't won anything since Cesc was given the team and the closest we have come is the champions league final (forgetting the Carling one for the moment) and the good league run last year.
Alot of discussion about the current lot revolves around getting the best out of Cesc but shouldn't we be wondering about what is the best for Arsenal FC?
Some people believe that Cesc needs 'a Vieira' next to him but in my opinion Cesc is supposed to be that player. Vieira was never a water carrier, he was the dominant partner who made things happen, which I'm assuming is what Cesc is supposed to be. If we put another one next to him, how will that balance the team?
How far do we go in waiting for his 'explosion of power' that Wenger mentioned a couple of years back? Or for his defensive game to improve (a point that he openly made about his ability after the last Spain game)?
Is cesc's inability to defend properly counter-prodcutive?
How about his lack of pace? we know it isn't when he has the ball but what about when he is chasing a winger back to the byline?
How exactly do we get the best from Cesc without sacrificing other players positives?
These for me are the key issues but feel free to throw in whatever you like. Please try to refrain from simply saying that Cesc is the best midfielder in the world and in our team; that's not really what the discussion is about but I'll try to make a clearer post once (and if) it gets going.