But quite frankly, if someone is a big enough knob to tatoo "killer yid" across their face, or whatever, it's pretty clear to me that they have a serious attitude/mental problem/deficiency which goes beyond a dislike for our poor relations down the road
clockend_faithful said:and you are a politically correct prik. im not here for yet another slagging match. you have displayed that you do not feel a hate towards the ****, and that you are not so passionate. you go to an arsenal match vs the ****, and look at the passion and intensity. then you would not be stupid enough to complain about the word "yid".you are a brainless ****.
Like I said the chants of "We hate Tottenham" "yiddo's" is relatively tame (although I still dislike it) but they are other chants, slogans and ways in people talk, that take it too far. And that is the danger of believing that 'tamer' things don't matter.
i am not brainless, i am just againt little priks who think they can change the world by being all political correct. end of the day you are being picky and fussy which is rather stupid and pointless. if you disagree with the chant "we hate tottenham" then you are not a true gooner, no true gooner can love arsenal and not feel dislike to the yids. maybe if you and the rest of your politically correct mates actually went down the the s***e hart lane and saw how they treated and abused us, you would not be calling us brainless etc.
i find it funny how so many on this board jump on the bandwagon and follow what one person says. sol mentioned to me about a man i may know with killer yid on his face, and suddenly all these people who have neveer experienced the true meaning of rivalry are using it against us. why dont you come to an arsenal vs tottenham match, preferably at the lane, then come back and tell me that we arewrong for calling them yids.if someone is a big enough knob to tatoo "killer yid" across their face, or whatever, it's pretty clear to me that they have a serious attitude/mental problem/deficiency which goes beyond a dislike for our poor relations down the road.
trust me, they are ALOT worse.
sol i expect you to back me up on this
Leewat3 said:once saw an arsenal shirt with 'He used to be a Yid, but he didn't cost a quid 23' FANTASTIC!
Chips&CurrySauce said:To be fair Beany I have heard all the yiddo chants at Highbury but I have never heard the hissing sounds, though I know you'd probably get that from Chelsea nd West Ham. Obviously this is bang out of order as our insensitive references to the Munich air crash, but for me the yiddo chants are just a bit of harmless banter between the 2 clubs and most supporters don't see it a anything more than that.
reggiepaul said:In the words of self accepted weird Michael Mansun : "FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!"
This is a touchy area. The Sp**s call themselves Yids, while it is supposed to be discriminatory towards Jews.
Now I know Pakistanis and Indians who don't mind calling themselves Pakis. Some of them, when called Paki say " Yes I am, your point is?"
Now I know black people, loads, oddly - and they all say they take the word nigger with jest.
Clock End is right about the over exaggerated PC'ness here. We have to look at the bigger picture.
The same way somebody would not incorporate offence because they wouldn't invite it, the same way most people don't mean offense.
In these situations someone should speak out and say they find it offensive.
In truth though - the word Yid has two meanings, that are, a Sp**s fan and harsh discrimination towards Jews. It's a touchy area.
Then again I think it is non-issue too because there are far more problematic issues in the world rather than this football banter that has little or nothing to do with the extremes by which it is being taken here. I can't deny that some Jewish people would find it offensive and that should be respected but in truth most people who use it don't mean any offense at all.
Split, instead of being aggressive you should just state politely, I find it offensive and you understand that is generally Banter in football but you also find it offensive because it is inconsiderate and insulting to a whole race of people.
vin de guerre said:It is about time that people did realise that Football does not exist in a cultural vacuum.
The club has strong links with the north London Jewish community and fans have dubbed themselves "the Yid Army" in response to the racist taunts.
Allyboy said:Just to play devils advocate here, at my school our year always played "Yids V", i.e. all the Jewish kids versus the non jewish kids.
However, this was on the request of the Jewish kids who actively promoted themselves as yids! (This was all the way up to 18 btw, so it was not just kiddies who did not know better).
Does that make the rest of us racist because we let them call themselves it?