There isn't any ****ing football! Besides, I'm rather enjoying this. No, seriously, I think this is a really interesting subject, and it's not half as boring as other political stuff you read on here because there's not much to it. The reason/excuse for justifying any kind of blatant hypocrisy (to put it mildly in this case) is always a great listen. Does one exist? So many questions.
I'm more concerned at the fact that Mesut doesn't look all that happy in some of his wedding pictures.
OMG OMG where?!!
You know this is your thing, and I have to say you’re very good at it.Ducking and diving like the rest of us?
Tell you what, if I'm overthinking it, then you're definitely under-thinking it!
And what's the narrative to try and slag him off? I think he's doing alright creating one all by himself, no?
Hold my hands up bro, I hadn’t thought of that tbf. I was thinking of Boris Johnson, possibly our next Prime Minister here in the U.K. he’s from Turkish ancestors, (Ali Kemal) and he’s a devious as ****, the clever b*st*rd.
You give me way too much credit. There's no thought process behind this. It's all gifts.You know this is your thing, and I have to say you’re very good at it.
Plugging away with subversive undermining posts to make him look bad. He goes missing in games, spineless, can’t remember him doing anything at all in the Cup Finals, sucking off dictators . . .
If you’d been working for Cameron in 2016 we wouldn’t be in this God awful mess.
You can't deny it's not interesting. As I said before, to be a fly on the wall when Özil and his wife chat about it.
I think Arsenal players must be classy.
TIL
No, Gündogan is articulate and responded to the criticism in an adult and nuanced way. Özil did what he always does when he gets criticized. He sulked, hid and blamed those who criticized him. He doesn’t want to be held accountable.
FWIW, Gundogan is not really in the same bracket as Özil, as @Furious said. He's a bit-part player at most. Özil has been major player wherever he used to play Madrid, Arsenal and Germany. Even Bremen.
You are missing my point. It’s not the stature of the player that caused the difference in reaction by the German press and public, it was how they reacted and how they behaved.
That is because Özil is a much more integral player (or was at the time). He could have apologized, and he still would have been plastered all over the papers.
I agree with this to some extent. Wenger was the football equivalent of the horse whisperer, constantly flattering their egos with encouragement and paternal compliments.
Immigrants often have romantic ideas about the old country and his mother may have chipped away about his rich Turkish heritage. So he grows up, marries Miss Turkey, befriends the president and makes mamma proud.You give me way too much credit. There's no thought process behind this. It's all gifts.
Seriously, I want him gone like a lot of us (some of which are nice people) but this is nothing to do with the football side of things.
I don't want him gone any more or less because of it. Some do. I don't believe in footballers being role models, but if you're going to wear that suit, it'd better fit. It's looks terrible, no denying it. You know it does, no matter how you dress it. Makes no odds football wise though. Murder, rape, and kiddy fiddling aside, the rest is fine with me as long as you're doing it on the pitch. No, not the crimes ffs, playing well.
The photos are one thing, but they have photos with important people all the time. Do you think Erdogan would have felt put-out if he didn't receive an invite? Do you think he expected to be best man? Why did he feel obligated to invite him AND ask him to be best man ffs? It's like he was going all out to cause a stir. You'd even think Erdogan would have a friendly word and suggest it's probably not in Özil's his best interests
Özil couldn't get into a team like that. This is his level.
Who are you and what did you do with our Trax?
In a survey of pundits, I bet Özil ranks in the top 100 footballers ever! Top 50 might be pushing it tbf.
Ha! Horse whisperers make the greatest trainers bro. As opposed to the urban dictionary definition which is something altogether different.
