lomekian
Essays are my thing
He'd love it. Self motivated leaders who can get their teammates to run through walls with them as well as being tactically on the money. Unless there is a big bust up, players like them make the manager's job easy.
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All or Nothing - Mikel Arteta ( and Arsenal ) - Amazon Prime
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Country: England
Subtle?
Yeah I was naively hoping this doc would help put me under Arteta's spell. It's really difficult to enjoy things when you're just not a fan of Arteta purely because of how central he is. Just intensified my dislike for him unfortunately, with what was said and more importantly what was not said.
I found it interesting how it's largely portrayed as the players fault with no focus on mistakes Arteta made last season, January transfer window - and yet the players got no screen time, so which is it?
The bright side is I am absolutely in love with Saka now. I always rated him as a player, but I just saw him as a good boy/robot. He's genuinely someone you can be proud of and gladly associate with the club.
Country: Kosova
Player:Saka
The doc was clearly directed to have absolute focus on Arteta and the PR that went along with it the whole of last season.
It is pretty indicative that there is no mention at the failure to make signings on January to replace Auba's goals (as fans rightfully asked on the doc too) which was then highlighted at "a single goal in April" and also how the tactical mess in those 3 straight losses was ignored, as we had Laca firing blanks and Lokonga completely exposed.
After the Newcastle loss they quickly switched the tune and showed it as a success still with Vinai and Wrighty claiming that to go from 8-th twice to 5th is still a success.
Which it could be if you decide to close your eyes at what just happened and ignore the context on how you ended in 5th.
It is pretty indicative that there is no mention at the failure to make signings on January to replace Auba's goals (as fans rightfully asked on the doc too) which was then highlighted at "a single goal in April" and also how the tactical mess in those 3 straight losses was ignored, as we had Laca firing blanks and Lokonga completely exposed.
After the Newcastle loss they quickly switched the tune and showed it as a success still with Vinai and Wrighty claiming that to go from 8-th twice to 5th is still a success.
Which it could be if you decide to close your eyes at what just happened and ignore the context on how you ended in 5th.
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It’s a professional football club.
I see a simple message of shape up or ship out. This is an elite level sport, not some holiday camp where all the kids get a participation trophy.
Player:Saliba
Yeah for real. Sport is a true meritocracy. To be honest Arteta seems to get way more pissed with players not following his instructions
He even said he's not going to change the way he wants us to play in the 7th or 8th episode. His way or the highway which is fair enough
Then he can have no complaints of it doesn't work out and gets the boot
Jury
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You ****house. That would’ve made sense if it was 1985. Not that I was eating roadkill in 1985 but where I live wasn’t nice. ****ing raccoons in East London?
I've no ****ing idea what I'm talking about brev, I get my London knowledge from memes although to be fair @Trilly @Nacho and @A__G have confirmed this to me.You ****house. That would’ve made sense if it was 1985. Not that I was eating roadkill in 1985 but where I live wasn’t nice. ****ing raccoons in East London?
Country: South Africa
Player:Nketiah
One thing I like about your posting, is that its so honest. You state your approach first and then you give your opinion.
And I think that's spot on. You can take almost every single post in this thread, of the series, and first get the poster's view on Arteta. Whether the poster likes or dislikes Arteta.
Once you have established that, the theme of the posting will follow suit. If I love Arteta, its a good series, we look good and the future is bright. If I hate Arteta, then he is cringey, out of his depth, boring, cant handle big players, etc.
Not a critique of any side from me. You SHOULD have an independent view of the club and how its being run, whehter positive or negative. All valid.
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Country: England
Just to be clear, I do think the club overall is heading in a positive direction. Things are far from a disaster my views were almost strictly about the doc. Appreciate your words anyways.
lomekian
Essays are my thing
As someone with 4 decades all over London, that is excellent
lomekian
Essays are my thing
Largely agree, but also influenced by what you think of other major figures.
I'm vaguely pro-Arteta, but more pro Edu, as the club has stopped doing as much stupid **** (still some).
I'm enjoying the show, but then I would probably enjoy it regardless of the angle because I like most of the current players, and the most recently departed, even if I don't rate them all.
2 years ago, this would have been a harder watch for me.
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Watching this, how is Ødegaard our captain? Not sure i said a word? Its clear Xhaka is the captain.
Country: South Africa
Player:Nketiah
I think the beauty of our journey is that there have been swayed views. It happened to me, I was one of Arteta's biggest critics here, I couldnt understand why the club were doing so much for someone out of his depth.
This is the season which will answer all questions though. There will come a time when the direction we've taken will clearly be a success or a failure. Then the real ones will step up and the ones who are hardened with their agenda will burn.
lomekian
Essays are my thing
Damn straight. Unless we are cursed with bad injury luck or Sp**s AND Chelsea blow the doors off, no top 4 (or Europa win) this year would be failure given the investment, and Mikel's chair will get very toasty indeed
Country: Bangladesh
Player:Martinelli
Dunno mate. I think we always romanticise the past. I think if managers from the Adam’s and Roy Keane era tried pulling off now what they did back then they’d be arrested. Or at the very least “cancelled”. I imagine there was nothing subtle about the way they went about things. Of course Keane and Adam’s generation also had respect for hierarchy etc which is why the managers could behave the way they did. These days everyone’s just an entitled tw@. I refuse to hire graduates after the last one wrote a complaint because I asked him to get me a coffee. Little prick.
Country: Kosova
Player:Saka
Feel you're reading way too much into the Amazon edit for the dressing room. No way they are all this quiet, no way Ødegaard won the armband just being mute, Xhaka is the leader but no way he's the only one that speaks. For me the edit was to highlight Arteta first and foremost, as the title of this thread nicely puts it
Arteta in or not that's part of what makes the series not a great watch, the most we get from Arteta is the kind of talk any self help crook could give you. That's hardly interesting insight into what makes this club tick.
Arteta in or not that's part of what makes the series not a great watch, the most we get from Arteta is the kind of talk any self help crook could give you. That's hardly interesting insight into what makes this club tick.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
I think it really boils down to your own personality what you think of Arteta‘s rants in this series.
“Shut your mouth and eat it,". "Today is unacceptable. Don't worry, I will face the people. Today is hard to defend you guys. Hard."
If you’re a ranter and pretty intense yourself then you’ll probably think that’s superb and giving the lads the kick up the arse they need.
Country: England
Yeah he will never be for me ngl
Never has been 100% about the football with me anyways. I could overlook some things if you're world class, which he's not so..
