Breezy ®
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Arteta’s biggest crime was backing this **** over Martinez.
Mod Edit: calm down ffs
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I still can't get my head around that. We lost quality and money and gained two jokers.Martinez was sold to fund Wilian and buy Runnarson. 2 for 1 they said.
Lmao you have to be joking. Leno belongs in the same category as Koscielny and Djourou. You know every game they are/were all bound to mess up at least once and lose their concentration to give the opposition a golden opportunity. He’s just a liability and very error prone which was already well documented before he even signed for us.I still don't think it was as obvious at the time, but firmly in the "we let the wrong one go" camp.
Don't think many were under the impression Leno was a world class or even an elite GK. Easy to forget that Martinez was here for +/-8 years, constantly being sent out on loan and often times struggling to establish himself as a #1 at League 1 and Championship sides. When he got his chance, his performances for us were excellent, but lets not pretend his sample size for the first team was enough for anyone to be dead certain it wasn't just a purple patch.Lmao you have to be joking. Leno belongs in the same category as Koscielny and Djourou. You know every game they are/were all bound to mess up at least once and lose their concentration to give the opposition a golden opportunity. He’s just a liability and very error prone which was already well documented before he even signed for us.
Agreed! Well said.Don't think many were under the impression Leno was a world class or even an elite GK. Easy to forget that Martinez was here for +/-8 years, constantly being sent out on loan and often times struggling to establish himself as a #1 at League 1 and Championship sides. When he got his chance, his performances for us were excellent, but lets not pretend his sample size for the first team was enough for anyone to be dead certain it wasn't just a purple patch.
All I'm saying was that there was a debate to be had at the end of last season. Now, not so much...
I still don't think it was as obvious at the time, but firmly in the "we let the wrong one go" camp.
Now our decision to let Emi go and go with Leno seems like a mistake, but when Emi came in, after Leno was injured, a ton of AM posters said he was absolute rubbish. I didn't even know he was in the club myself! Not sure anyone could have predicted this turn of events with any certainty.Don't think many were under the impression Leno was a world class or even an elite GK. Easy to forget that Martinez was here for +/-8 years, constantly being sent out on loan and often times struggling to establish himself as a #1 at League 1 and Championship sides. When he got his chance, his performances for us were excellent, but lets not pretend his sample size for the first team was enough for anyone to be dead certain it wasn't just a purple patch.
All I'm saying was that there was a debate to be had at the end of last season. Now, not so much...
You don't think we would have replicated the 20M fee by selling Leno? Can't imagine him going for less (at that time), but maybe I'm wrong.We needed the money.
You don't think we would have replicated the 20M fee by selling Leno? Can't imagine him going for less (at that time), but maybe I'm wrong.
We could have sold Maitland-Niles, Willock, Bellerin, etc. Kroenke does us no favors whatsoever but the management of the money that is made available is absolutely shambolic.We needed the money.
Let's take a moment to think about who has been in goal since Lehman and ask if being the best of that lot, headlined by an ancient Petr Cech who may well have still been on the Chelsea payroll is really an achievement that merits talking about.Based on his play last season, keeping him was the right choice. He put in the best season an Arsenal GK has had since Lehman.
Obviously he's had some very poor displays this year though so it looks bad in hindsight.
We could have sold Maitland-Niles, Willock, Bellerin, etc. Kroenke does us no favors whatsoever but the management of the money that is made available is absolutely shambolic.
He's done well at Newcastle to be sure. I would rather see him getting an opportunity versus someone like Ceballos. I get the sense he may be sold. Newcastle seem keen to keep him and Arteta prefers pensioners with nowhere to go but down.Agreed, however I’m glad we kept Willock- I think there’s something there.
Lmao you have to be joking. Leno belongs in the same category as Koscielny and Djourou. You know every game they are/were all bound to mess up at least once and lose their concentration to give the opposition a golden opportunity. He’s just a liability and very error prone which was already well documented before he even signed for us.