Dušan Vlahović

[OnlyOne]

I think the same, I don't like his attitude, he is acting like he were WC for seasons. We have seen how it goes when they do that (Aouar).

Go for Schick and we will be ok. Or take Felix from Atlético and play him as false nine. I bet he can do everything Laca does better.

After scouting him, I don't think he will be a good fit for the dressing room.

Especially given the high wage demand of him, will unsettle our other talents.

Please can you both elaborate on what you've seen about his attitude that makes you question him not being a good fit? Thanks.

 

[A_G]

Please can you both elaborate on what you've seen about his attitude that makes you question him not being a good fit? Thanks.

 

[OnlyOne]

His hands massive.

 

[A_G]

His hands massive.

Would tag Riou here if he was awake.

 

[OnlyOne]

Would tag Riou here if he was awake.

He'll be tucked up in bed with his Uncle @GDeep™

 

[The_Playmaker]

Its funny how times have changed. Data and radars really do colour our view of players. Sometimes it is simply about. Are they a very good footballer or not? If we don't get him there are other options. Isak is a very good footballer in his own right.

Ask yourself this. When Henry was at Juventus. What would his radar have looked like? 105 appearances for Monaco. 20 goals. 16 for Juventus, 3 goals.

If he he existed now, we would be hoping we missed out on him. Sometimes we need to trust the guys who have played, develop and understand what improvements a footballer can make.

 

[Rasmi]

Its funny how times have changed. Data and radars really do colour our view of players. Sometimes it is simply about. Are they a very good footballer or not? If we don't get him there are other options. Isak is a very good footballer in his own right.

Ask yourself this. When Henry was at Juventus. What would his radar have looked like? 105 appearances for Monaco. 20 goals. 16 for Juventus, 3 goals.

If he he existed now, we would be hoping we missed out on him. Sometimes we need to trust the guys who have played, develop and understand what improvements a footballer can make.

I agree, but this is an issue in every sport where nerds have taken over in assessing talents with numbers instead of real football people who can judge ability with their eyes. To this day whenever they post xg stats I don’t get it

 

[Game Over]

Its funny how times have changed. Data and radars really do colour our view of players. Sometimes it is simply about. Are they a very good footballer or not? If we don't get him there are other options. Isak is a very good footballer in his own right.

Ask yourself this. When Henry was at Juventus. What would his radar have looked like? 105 appearances for Monaco. 20 goals. 16 for Juventus, 3 goals.

If he he existed now, we would be hoping we missed out on him. Sometimes we need to trust the guys who have played, develop and understand what improvements a footballer can make.

Exactly. Look at the type of players StatsDNA got us - Elneny, Mustafi...

After a near flawless summer window as far as incomings go, we should trust these guys will get this transfer right.

 

[Riou]

All these constant mentions/non-mentions, one day, I tell ya...

 

[Makavelii]

I agree, but this is an issue in every sport where nerds have taken over in assessing talents with numbers instead of real football people who can judge ability with their eyes. To this day whenever they post xg stats I don’t get it

This logic always baffles me. Even the tippy top best managers in the world put more weighting in the stats than their eyes. Do you think you know better than them?

 

[samspade]

Its funny how times have changed. Data and radars really do colour our view of players. Sometimes it is simply about. Are they a very good footballer or not? If we don't get him there are other options. Isak is a very good footballer in his own right.

Ask yourself this. When Henry was at Juventus. What would his radar have looked like? 105 appearances for Monaco. 20 goals. 16 for Juventus, 3 goals.

If he he existed now, we would be hoping we missed out on him. Sometimes we need to trust the guys who have played, develop and understand what improvements a footballer can make.

The data is certainly useful and it certainly works in giving us condensed and objective summaries of players but it will inevitably miss out on the complexities and intangibles of football.

Players organically develop trees of decision making that may or may not bear fruit, in their current form a computer isn’t going to be able tell if something a player is unsuccessful trying to implement today is going to work tomorrow, for that kind of an assessment of if a player is on the right track you need an informed person.

Humans are still the most advanced pattern recognition machines known so there’s no reason to throw out their insights whole sale but it would be stupid not to use data analysis to try to aid our understanding and assessment of footballers.

At least that’s my uninformed opinion on the matter.

 

[Rasmi]

This logic always baffles me. Even the tippy top best managers in the world put more weighting in the stats than their eyes. Do you think you know better than them?

they dont, otherwise people wouldnt question managers who prefer certain type of players and persist with them when the average person cant see why. stats dont take account to human emotions and how being comfortable in a team and in ones life effects ones football.

 

[Riou]

Over reliance on data has taken a bit of magic away from the game, no one will convince me otherwise.

Need more stuff like this...

...this is football!

 

[daron christie]

If the players agent not answering his phone to us then can’t see this taking off anytime time soon

 

[GoonerJay24]

I agree, but this is an issue in every sport where nerds have taken over in assessing talents with numbers instead of real football people who can judge ability with their eyes. To this day whenever they post xg stats I don’t get it

I feel there is a place for stats and data monitoring in relation to football talent identification. It makes the process of gauging player ability more thorough.
However this shouldn't override 'the eyes' of top coaches and scouts who have years of experience within the game.

Some of these sport science or multidisciplinary setups in football academies are causing alot of problems and wasting even more money. It should be implemented in clubs but not on a massive scale.

 

[GoonerJay24]

Anyway on Vlahovic, good goalscorer with ability to become a top striker. But I'm not sure if he'll suit Arsenal's current style. David in that striker position would offer far better link up, interplaying and combinations with Martinelli and Saka.

 

[field442]

If the players agent not answering his phone to us then can’t see this taking off anytime time soon

You believe that ****? There probably isn’t an agent in world football who wouldn’t pick up their phone if a big club called. They’d potentially be turning down £10m+ in agent fees.

 

[Rasmi]

I feel there is a place for stats and data monitoring in relation to football talent identification. It makes the process of gauging player ability more thorough.
However this shouldn't override 'the eyes' of top coaches and scouts who have years of experience within the game.

Some of these sport science or multidisciplinary setups in football academies are causing alot of problems and wasting even more money. It should be implemented in clubs but not on a massive scale.

I agree. Specially when it comes to really young players as players develop physically and mentally at different stages

 

[SevenOfClubs]

Why pursue a player who doesn’t want to be here

 

[Goonger]

Why pursue a player who doesn’t want to be here

Maybe don't believe everything you read. The club aren't stupid, do we believe the club is calling Vlahovic's agents constantly only to be getting the answerphone?