James Maddison

[dashsnow17]

Why bother watching the game when you have a spider diagram

Has Tielemans ever really jumped out at you when you watch him? He's played 2 full seasons in the PL and he's never looked anything more than a good solid PL midfielder, maybe i'm just remembering wrong. He's obviously good, but people are talking like he's Verratti or something and i'm not sure he is.

 

[Rex Stone]

Maddison is top 2 in chance creation over the past 3 years. Created almost as many chances as KDB.

The stat labelled as “chance creation” is an extremely subjective metric that you don’t actually get on many decent sites.

Also can I see the link for it?

 

[HairSprayGooners]

The stat labelled as “chance creation” is an extremely subjective metric that you don’t actually get on many decent sites.

Also can I see the link for it?

 

[Rex Stone]

Yeah so this is why the stat is dodgy. You have two full backs and a Wolves’ set piece taker on that list.

Chances created is basically a counting stat for crosses and set pieces so if you do lots of those you’re going to have far higher numbers than most other players.

 

[Garrincha]

Digne seems to be on all of these top stat lists posted

 

[Rex Stone]

Digne seems to be on all of these top stat lists posted

Its because he takes corners and free kicks for Everton when Sigurdsson doesn’t play.

Same with Trent.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Yeah so this is why the stat is dodgy. You have two full backs and a Wolves’ set piece taker on that list.

Chances created is basically a counting stat for crosses and set pieces so if you do lots of those you’re going to have far higher numbers than most other players.

You make a good point there.


Even if some are set pieces is that a good thing for us?

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Its because he takes corners and free kicks for Everton when Sigurdsson doesn’t play.

Same with Trent.

The thing is with Trent he creates so much from open play regardless, he's always near the top of big chances created.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

@Rex Banter this is a bit more helpful!

 

[Rex Stone]

You make a good point there.


Even if some are set pieces is that a good thing for us?

The problem with chances created is that it doesn’t tell you the quality of the cross.

Dropping it on onto the head of your striker or getting it cleared by the first man are both “chances”.

Also if Maddison doesn’t take set pieces here then that’s a major potential reason for signing him gone.

The thing is with Trent he creates so much from open play regardless, he's always near the top of big chances created.

Yeah so him and Digne are both phenomenal crossers of the ball. What this means is that their teams both rack up the crossing opportunities for them.

I’m sure if you looked into leading crossers for the PL those two would be near the top.

 

[drippin]

@Rex Banter this is a bit more helpful!

We would still need the stats for only open play chances created.

 

[field442]

Gunnerblog was on the arseblog podcast today saying from what he’s heard Maddison isn’t a name being seriously discussed at a high level within Arsenal and he’s probably getting that info from Ornstein. Make of that what you will.

 

[drippin]

Also if Maddison doesn’t take set pieces here then that’s a major potential reason for signing him gone.

Or if his hip doesn't allow taking those anymore.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

We would still need the stats for only open play chances created.

It says it there. Bottom left. But would be interesting to see it for the others as well.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

If current and past links anything to go by then Ødegaard, Bernard Silva, Aouar and Fekir.

And Julian Brandt if we want someone cheaper.

Gunnerblog was on the arseblog podcast today saying from what he’s heard Maddison isn’t a name being seriously discussed at a high level within Arsenal and he’s probably getting that info from Ornstein. Make of that what you will.

I think we tried for him but the cost was too much. It's too late in the window to do this now

 

[drippin]

It says it there. Bottom left. But would be interesting to see it for the others as well.

Sorry, what I meant is similar list for other players to compare. Having a requirement of having 100+ for both open play & still balls is a tough feat, and can sound too good that he is "the only one".

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Sorry, what I meant is similar list for other players to compare. Having a requirement of having 100+ for both open play & still balls is a tough feat, and can sound too good that he is "the only one".

For context -

 

[TornadoTed]

I will be surprised if Azeez gets many EPL minutes this season. He is raw and young. I think this season he will get easy cup games mostly and train with the 1st team, while being the extreme back-up. I understand this because the midfield position is very difficult.

Hopefully he has a good chance of a few appearances with Partey and Elneny going AFCON even if they are 20 minutes from the bench.

 

[drippin]

Hopefully he has a good chance of a few appearances with Partey and Elneny going AFCON even if they are 20 minutes from the bench.

Hopefully Elneny goes to Turkey and we get a new player.

 

[Sammy1887]

Personally don't think Gunnerblog knows anything but its only 3 more weeks till we find out.