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✍️ OFFICIAL Kieran Tierney (Out)

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Gooner Zig

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There was, they just didn't act on it and opted for different options. Might have been different if other prem teams saw him more, but you'd have to go back a couple seasons for his best football due to injuries and selection woes.

Curious about the bolded bit - I can only really think of Newcastle being in for him, which other teams were there?

As for other teams seeing him more - don't see how that can be a factor? They had plenty of opportunity to see him when he was a starter for us; he isn't some kid who has minimal exposure to the PL. It's just really odd to me that we couldn't shift this guy to a PL team this window.
 

dashsnow17

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Some of the responses here seem a little over the top. It sure the injury


No offence but that’s crazy. It’s for the player to adapt to the needs of the team. Nobody is saying KT isn’t a good player - he clearly is and seems nice a really nice guy into the bargain but he is just not suited to the way Arteta wants to play.

You don’t switch entire balance and tactics to squeeze one player in (and an injury prone one at that). He’s not Messi and it’s not like we have a Giroud up front to take advantage of his biggest assset (crossing)

Some of the criticism here has been well OTT but then again, wouldn’t be AM if it wasn’t.

Will be sorry to see him go but makes sense. Hopefully does well and makes more of the opportunity than Pepe did…

It’s not about sacrificing your style of play for Tierney, just about adapting.

You have good player A (Zinchenko) and good player B (Tierney). A can play one tactical style that B can’t play, B can play a different one.

A is your first choice, but when you have a cup game for example, why can’t you play B and adapt your style? A good coach has more than one way to win.

Sure, eventually you’ll sell B cos he doesn’t fit your favoured style, but by playing B more in certain games with an adapted style, you’ve retained his value.

Instead, Arteta plays his favourite players non-stop and totally discards other players, some of whom are very good footballers, because they don’t fit his rigid tactics.

Arteta is a very good manager, when everything is just right, when everything isn’t just right, he can’t adapt and it goes wrong.
 

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It’s not about sacrificing your style of play for Tierney, just about adapting.

You have good player A (Zinchenko) and good player B (Tierney). A can play one tactical style that B can’t play, B can play a different one.

A is your first choice, but when you have a cup game for example, why can’t you play B and adapt your style? A good coach has more than one way to win.

Sure, eventually you’ll sell B cos he doesn’t fit your favoured style, but by playing B more in certain games with an adapted style, you’ve retained his value.

Instead, Arteta plays his favourite players non-stop and totally discards other players, some of whom are very good footballers, because they don’t fit his rigid tactics.

Arteta is a very good manager, when everything is just right, when everything isn’t just right, he can’t adapt and it goes wrong.
...and thats why he will never be a top manager.
 

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Anyway, good luck to him. Hopefully he puts himself in the shop window with this loan.

Always been a solid pro for us and seems like a nice guy too.

Make sure to pack plenty of sunscreen KT :lol:
 

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Probably a big distance between the clubs on the potential fee. They would have wanted something rubbish like £15-20m I presume.

We would rather just have him back and hold the cards
Yeah actually realizing now this is better than an option to buy for exactly that reason. Without an agree-upon fee up front they would try to low ball next summer when the option came around.
 

Riou

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Why is @Riou not in the conversation here?

Sure thing he's the only one we can trust on this issue.


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I'm wondering if there is a recall option in this deal? If he goes and does well, remains injury free, can we recall and sell him elsewhere in January? Or bring him back if we hit a wall with injuries? Or if he isn't playing and we want to move him on to another team :/
 
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