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[Mark Tobias]

Can someone list other ex-players who became a manager of their ex-teammates?

Kenny Dalglish, Graem Souness & Glenn Hoddle.

Would be hard pressed to give you a current name.

 

[field442]

Can someone list other ex-players who became a manager of their ex-teammates?

Dalglish, Hoddle, Gullit, Vialli.

Chelsea had quite a bit of success with it in the 90s.

 

[Kobi]

Can someone list other ex-players who became a manager of their ex-teammates?

Giggs
Monk
Howe
Gullit
Vialli
Lombardo

 

[A_G]

Kenny Dalglish, Graem Souness & Glenn Hoddle.

Would be hard pressed to give you a current name.

Neil Lennon? @bingobob

Gareth Southgate as well

 

[bingobob]

Neil Lennon? @bingobob

Gareth Southgate as well

Yup. Also his first managerial role.

 

[Kroket]

Eddie Howe and Garry Monk spring to mind as well.

 

[Garrincha]

I would love to know how Arteta is seen as a more suitable candidate than Jardim, who has been my #1 choice for ages. I would also love to know how the Board and Ivan accepted the fact that Mikel (assuming he's chosen) was teammates with almost half the squad just a mere two seasons ago and how that relationship was suddenly going to change? What mitigation factors were they thinking of on this risk?

You cant justify it but I guess if you cant get one of the very elite managers now we can always get a good experienced guy anytime... We pay well.

The freedom to sack any of these managers after a year or run of bad results really lessens the risk. Bet we are on the third by 2020.

 

[Kash]

Neil Lennon? @bingobob

Gareth Southgate as well

Guardiola?

 

[celestis]

Kenny Dalglish, Graem Souness & Glenn Hoddle.

Would be hard pressed to give you a current name.

Kevin Muscat

 

[Garrincha]

Can someone list other ex-players who became a manager of their ex-teammates?

Seedorf was mentions a few 100 pages back. Still had links to Milan... Lasted three months.

 

[Kroket]

Guardiola?

Only Valdes, Puyol and Xavi.

 

[say yes]

Special treat for @MaraDon and @Highbury_2006

 

[Mo Britain]

If the Board had any cunning they would be destabilising Sp**s by letting it be known they are interested in talking to Pochettino.

The effect this would have, following on from Pochettino's comments demanding big spending there, would be to force Sp**s to spend more than they can afford (in an effort to keep their most "successful" manager in decades) thus hastening their financial collapse.

Or we end up with Pochettino and he poaches some of their best players for us.

 

[Jury]

I think I've somehow talked myself into wanting Vieira. How the f*ck did that happen? He has the fabled club connection (though y'know, whatever), he'd very much unite the fans, he's an excellent speaker, motivator, man manager and leader.

If we're going young I'd rather have Nagelsmann, because he has proven himself to be good at the tactics etc, but also a consummate leader. But people are saying he's unavailable this summer. I'm a bit worried that Vieira isn't experienced enough tactically to sort out the defence and make us a solid outfit. But 100% he'd command the respect of the players and get them all interested again, he'd build momentum and belief in a common project.

I think Vieira absolutely has the confidence to walk into the training ground on the first day and make everyone believe that he's the right man to be there. Can Arteta do that?

Vieira offers a lot of what I look for, one aspect being commanding huge respect from any player that has seen him play, or will ever see footage of him in his playing days. As much as we think we know about their credentials in other aspects, there’s still far more we don’t, and only those that play under them can reveal what they are. For example you might assume Arteta is poor at motivating or wouldn’t be as imposing in the dressing room as Vieira, but it might not turn out that way, as hard as that might be to believe!

 

[Fawwaz Ahmed]

Why isn't Nagelsmann the leading candidate. We should have gone all out to pursue him. His track record and methods are exceptional. The more I read about him and see his team play, the more it seems like he could have a Guardiola like impact at our club. He fits in our philosophy and seems like the profile we are looking to hire. Very surprising and disappointing in a way.

All of us can judge all we want but the truth is that none of us know how Arteta is going to turn out because he has never been a manager till now.

We need someone who will give this team a shock in terms of tactics, training and methods. Nagelsmann could have been that man but if Arteta is really the chosen once, let's hope that he has learnt from Guardiola and can change the playing culture of our team.

 

[celestis]

Vieira offers a lot of what I look for, one aspect being commanding huge respect from any player that has seen him play, or will ever see footage of him in his playing days. As much as we think we know about their credentials in other aspects, there’s still far more we don’t, and only those that play under them can reveal what they are. For example you might assume Arteta is poor at motivating or wouldn’t be as imposing in the dressing room as Vieira, but it might turn out that way, as hard as that might be to believe!

Probably why Ivan's moving his office to Colney , in case the players start bullying Arteta .

 

[Tosker]

it's pretty obvious to me that although Gazidis is the man excercising the power, Josh Kroenke is the man enabling him to do so

Arsène was Kroenke senior's man, and the timing of Josh's prolonged stay in London suggests he came over to give his backing to the clear out

 

[North5]

Too soon for arteta , he was playing with the lads a couple years ago.

I'm thirsty for change , but what are we doing? Lol

 

[TriniGunner]

I started to think about this whole Arteta thing and I realized that it may not be as bad as we're making it out to be. There's a reason why he left Wenger's side to go be Pep's #2. He could have stayed here, under Wenger but I honestly think that Wenger's management style and tactics were in complete contrast to his. I've also heard that our players who played with him were very much impressed by his tactics, knowledge of the game and they even told him that he should seriously consider going into management. It seems like he left a very good impression on the management of the club and the players and it's why he's being considered for the job. I'm not in any way fully behind his appointment but it seems we are looking for a candidate who shares certain values and characteristics of the club. Added to that, being Guardiola's assistant for 2 seasons can't be bad for your CV. He was bound to learn a lot from him.

 

[TriniGunner]

Too soon for arteta , he was playing with the lads a couple years ago.

I'm thirsty for change , but what are we doing? Lol

I've heard that the management and players were very impressed with him when he was here. He seemed to be the total opposite to Wenger in terms of tactics and it's why he chose to leave and not stay under Wenger.