evoh_1
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Oscar isn't a thing like kaka, kaka was all about technique and being a pure athlete oscar has talent yes but he is no athlete.
Dutch D said:Strootman is in no way, shape or form similar to Kaka.
mavelous said:45m for cesc and song. deal?
mavelous said:Dutch D said:Strootman is in no way, shape or form similar to Kaka.
your unpredictable, valuable and insightful contribution is much appreciated.
Leaving Cazorla out of the starting eleven?Proof said:Ogbonna, Strootman, Isco and Jovetic.
- Szczesny -
- Sagna - Ogbonna- Koscielny - Monreal -
- Strootman - Wilshere - Isco -
- Walcott - Jovetic - Podolski -
Dutch D said:mavelous said:Dutch D said:Strootman is in no way, shape or form similar to Kaka.
your unpredictable, valuable and insightful contribution is much appreciated.
The statement doesn't really warrant an in depth response, but for some slight elaboration; Strootman is an enforcer, albeit a talented one, but still an enforcer. How this comparison came to be I have no clue. He does have a tendency to go forward and good ball control, which is nice because most enforcers/midfielder have a tendency for the side pass or slowing down the play due to lack of technique/ball control.
say yes said:Hmmm.
- Jovetic
- Villa
- Julio Cesar
- DM
- Top top top CB
- Isco
Wouldn't that be nice. All of those apart from Villa/Cesar should cost £20m+ so we're looking at a summer expenditure of ~ £100m, so will never happen. But that's what I think we need to get us competitive again.
say yes said:No idea.
May not even be one available. However if there is one available out there, I'd make him a priority signing.
From my meagre scouting knowledge, the only 'available' defender about I can think of that has that aura about him would be Dede from Vasco. Whenever I read articles about Brazilian football he always seems to be mentioned as the biggest talent over there (apart from Neymar). Already been voted into the 100 best brazilian players of all time and Vasco have said he's going to be leaving in the summer.
I didn't name him (or anyone else for that matter) because I'm not going to pretend for one second I've ever seen him play but it would be nice (to say the least) to have a world class CB at arsenal again.
say yes said:Really couldn't tell you if I'm honest. As I say, I know nothing about him other than he's supposed to be very very good. Here's an article Tim Vickery wrote on him about two years ago:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/talent-scout-dede" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/talent-scout-dede</a>" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He's been linked around (just type Dede into google) but it's quite hard to prise the top Brazilian players out of Brazil e.g. Neymar, Thiago Silva.
In doing some research on him, I found a thread on redcafe discussing him (he's linked to united a lot). So obviously take this with a pinch of salt but he's what one guy had to say:
Well, I'm a homegrown Vasco supporter. Dedé, is surely one of the finest defenders in Brazil right, along with Rever. IMO, the best today. Should've been a starter in the Olympics, but got injuried.
He is surely a fine defender, a little shaky after his injury some time ago, but he's tall, strong, fast as ****, and a beast in intercepting passes.
Ricardo Gomes isn't the coach anymore, last year he had a stroke on the bench during a game against rivals Flamengo, and his assistent had taken over, but was fired last week. But his role in the development and build up of the player was immense.
Best defender in the country since Thiago Silva. And I'll go further and say I think he's maybe better today, than Thiago was when in Brazil.
Anyway I feel like I'm talking out of my ass cause I've literally never seen him play so I'm gonna stop there. There was a reason I didn't name him (or anyone else) for that CB position
Ogbonna sounds like a very interesting option too. Would be nice to hear the views of someone who watches Serie A.
Well, I'm a homegrown Vasco supporter. Dedé, is surely one of the finest defenders in Brazil right, along with Rever. IMO, the best today. Should've been a starter in the Olympics, but got injuried.
He is surely a fine defender, a little shaky after his injury some time ago, but he's tall, strong, fast as ****, and a beast in intercepting passes.
Ricardo Gomes isn't the coach anymore, last year he had a stroke on the bench during a game against rivals Flamengo, and his assistent had taken over, but was fired last week. But his role in the development and build up of the player was immense.
Best defender in the country since Thiago Silva. And I'll go further and say I think he's maybe better today, than Thiago was when in Brazil.
mavelous said:while city and chelsea try the hardest to find financial loopholes, we should go ahead and install our own version of an offshore base... in portugal. basically, to get our hands on top south americal (esp. brazilian) talent.
how, i have no idea.