Houssem Aouar

[Xanth]

Why do people bring up Ramsey, he has nothing to do with this thread.

Someone compared his playing style with that of Aouar's which elicited some groans of disgust.

 

[MikelHadADream]

I see this a lot but I don't really get it. Partey has only ever played in a double pivot in a defensive system. The role of a number 6 in a possession-based system is considerably different. Look at Kante's struggles in the past couple of years.

For what it's worth, Atletico fans seem to rate him more as a box-to-box midfielder and not someone who's necessarily great defensively.

Fair point, but I think Partey could adapt to a 433, be it either as an 8 or a 6, I'm thinking in a similar role Henderson fulfills for Liverpool. I think we can get away with Xhaka as the 6 if we have Partey slightly ahead of him as a box to box 8.

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

What's all this about changing the name of the Community Shield, to the Intergalactic Super Cup to give it prestige Any English person or person with knowledge of the English game knows that's absolute rubbish.

The Community Shield has no prestige because no-one takes it seriously, and never has. It's been ingrained over the decades, a name change isn't going to change that. It's not a proper trophy in any way. Counting it as a trophy is what bellends like Jose Mourinho do to trophy pad their CV.

It's kind of the opposite of the FA Cup, which technically is less important than it's ever been in the English game, but the prestige and history of the FA Cup will always make it a valuable trophy to win.

 

[Furious]

Fair point, but I think Partey could adapt to a 433, be it either as an 8 or a 6, I'm thinking in a similar role Henderson fulfills for Liverpool. I think we can get away with Xhaka as the 6 if we have Partey slightly ahead of him as a box to box 8.

Nah, Xhaka as 6 would be poor too. Limits his passing options and would be left isolated, where he struggles.

Alternatively Thomas as 6 you say, and Xhaka LCM, where he stays back akin to at the start of Arteta's time in the 4231, where he was taking up the LB position to build from. But don't find that particularly exciting to be honest. Rather a LCM like Aouar.

Ultimately, I don't think 433 is the way to go if we buy these players. 4231, or continue with the 343, where Aouar, other than at CM, at times could play LW, or even LWB/LM; seems to be doing most of his good work on the left.

 

[wolfkidultman]

Ramsey was an off the ball player. Aouar is an on the ball player.

Aouar is actually more similar to what Fabregas was for us. But slightly less good technically and more mobile, suiting the modern game more.

 

[OnlyOne]

Nah, Xhaka as 6 would be poor too. Limits his passing options and would be left isolated, where he struggles.

Alternatively Thomas as 6 you say, and Xhaka LCM, where he stays back akin at the start of Arteta's time in the 4231, where he was taking up the LB position to build from. But don't find that particularly exciting to be honest. Rather a LCM like Aouar.

Ultimately, I don't think 433 is the way to go if we buy these players. 4231, or continue with the 343 I guess.

Could you not see Xhaka being a bit similar to how Rodri is used at City? Then you have Aour/Ceballos as your similar De Bruyne/David Silva

I think it would work.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

TF1 journalist who are reliable say still no agreement but Arsenal are in pole position new better bid will be made start of new week and confident they'll get Aouar

 

[MikelHadADream]

Nah, Xhaka as 6 would be poor too. Limits his passing options and would be left isolated, where he struggles.

Alternatively Thomas as 6 you say, and Xhaka LCM, where he stays back akin to at the start of Arteta's time in the 4231, where he was taking up the LB position to build from. But don't find that particularly exciting to be honest. Rather a LCM like Aouar.

Ultimately, I don't think 433 is the way to go if we buy these players. 4231, or continue with the 343, where Aouar, other than at CM, at times could play LW, or even LWB/LM; seems to be doing most of his good work on the left.

I'd normally agree, I dont like Xhaka as a lone DM in a system that only has 2 Cbs, but I feel with the added defensive solidity Partey would provide ahead of his it could work. Although tbh it would probably just make more sense having a Xhaka-Partey pivot with Aouar ahead, in possession it would basically turn into a 433 anyway as Partey is more box to box.

I think you're right about Aouars position, although there's no chance he plays a LWB imo. I could definitely see him on the left of the front 3.

 

[Furious]

Could you not see Xhaka being a bit similar to how Rodri is used at City? Then you have Aour/Ceballos as your similar De Bruyne/David Silva

I think it would work.

He's simply too immobile to be honest, but maybe if we all the conditions set for him it could work in the majority of the games.

But then Thomas as one of the 8's? I wouldn't want that either tbh.

Think a double-pivot is the way to go. As that seems to suit them all the most with the exception of Aouar, and even he can do well in that. Ceballos ideally should work as an 8 too if given time to prove it.

But we'll see. Arteta has probably something in mind with all of this. The opportunities are endless.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

TF1 journalist who are reliable say still no agreement but Arsenal are in pole position new better bid will be made start of new week and confident they'll get Aouar

We will know a lot more after Lyon's game at 4pm.

 

[OnlyOne]

He's simply too immobile to be honest, but maybe if we all the conditions set for him it could work in the majority of the games.

But then Thomas as one of the 8's? I wouldn't want that either tbh.

Think a double-pivot is the way to go. As that seems to suit them all the most with the exception of Aouar, and even he can do well in that. Ceballos ideally should work as an 8 too if given time to prove it.

But we'll see. Arteta has probably something in mind with all of this. The opportunities are endless.

I think against any teams out the top 6 we'd just dominate possession and try suffocate teams with that midfield so Xhaka's immobility wouldn't be questioned too much.

 

[MikelHadADream]

Yeah tbh I think 4231 is the way to go.

--------Partey---Xhaka
Willian---Aouar------Auba

Is not too dissimilar to the way City lined up against Wolves, where they had a pivot of Fernandinho-Rodri with Foden, KDB, Sterling ahead.

Obviously Pepe/Saka/Ceballos come into the equation as well.

IF the club can pull the two deals off, we are in serious buisness.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

45m euros plus 10m that what Aulas wants and what he'll get from us we not very far from full agreement

 

[Trilly]

It's kind of the opposite of the FA Cup, which technically is less important than it's ever been in the English game, but the prestige and history of the FA Cup will always make it a valuable trophy to win.

Think the prestige of the FA cup is going to slowly return.

Us having to beat City and Chelsea to win it, as well as Liverpool throwing the tournament shows that it’s not going to be ‘easy’ for the foreseeable future.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

People really don't realise how much Partey offers going forward. He would be the the box to box player in a 3 akin to how Doucoure is playing for Everton. Aouar would be the floaty magic player on the left hand side of the 3.

 

[Furious]

I think you're right about Aouars position, although there's no chance he plays a LWB imo. I could definitely see him on the left of the front 3.

Yeah, obviously it is unlikely to happen, I'd rather him in other positions but he's so versatile. Think it'd be kinda sick to be honest, you see Saka/AMN there and think why not? Especially when you look at how he dribbles past players on the left for fun.

I think against any teams out the top 6 we'd just dominate possession and try suffocate teams with that midfield so Xhaka's immobility wouldn't be questioned too much.

Yeah, but he'd get destroyed in counterattacks I fear.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

I said this weeks ago and was battered for it. But this would genuinely work so well -

Leno
Bellerin - Luiz - Gabriel - Tierney - AMN
Partey - Xhaka
Pepe/Willian - Auba - Aouar​

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

Think the prestige of the FA cup is going to slowly return.

Us having to beat City and Chelsea to win it, as well as Liverpool throwing the tournament shows that it’s not going to be ‘easy’ for the foreseeable future.

I don't know if the FA Cup ever really lost its prestige as much as it's been overtaken by other priorities, top 4 etc over the past couple of decades. I think it's still the most valued domestic club competition in the world.

I think you're right though, over the past few years it's felt like the FA Cup has been treated more seriously by the bigger teams. With Man City and Liverpool looking set to dominate the league for the next few years, the FA Cup feels like the best chance for clubs to pick up some domestic silverware.

 

[Makavelii]

People really don't realise how much Partey offers going forward. He would be the the box to box player in a 3 akin to how Doucoure is playing for Everton. Aouar would be the floaty magic player on the left hand side of the 3.

In a 433 or a 343?

 

[MikelHadADream]

Yeah, obviously it is unlikely to happen, I'd rather him in other positions but he's so versatile. Think it'd be kinda sick to be honest, you see Saka/AMN there and think why not? Especially when you look at how he dribbles past players on the left for fun.



Yeah, but he'd get destroyed in counterattacks I fear.

I think you want him receiving the ball between the lines as much as possible. He is a specialist taking the ball on the half turn. I fear if you play him in that position, you really limit the amount of times he can get the ball in these positions.

I think he'd be used in a similar way Bernado/Foden are used at City.