Lisandro Martinez

[Tom Mix]

Why do people's thoughts about a guy's height matter when his official height is known?

 

[yorch44]

It might be hard for you to accept it now but that’s just how modern football works these days. Welcome to modern football.

No it isn't, it that were true you would see every team with 1.70 CBs and it's not happening. People loves to generalize the exceptions. One case in 100 is that, an exception and doesn't mean at all it's better to have an exception than the general trend. So no, that's not modern football at all.

 

[yorch44]

Why do people's thoughts about a guy's height matter when his official height is known?

It matters when the guy height in photos looks closer to Messi than the so called "official". Imagine him, Viera and Gabriel Jesús... The shortest spine in PL rocking the corners... If they jump like 2m of course.

 

[UnitedBeard]

No it isn't, it that were true you would see every team with 1.70 CBs and it's not happening. People loves to generalize the exceptions. One case in 100 is that, an exception and doesn't mean at all it's better to have an exception than the general trend. So no, that's not modern football at all.

It’s not about modern football requires short centre back or 1.70 CB. It’s about having centre back that is very good on the ball. In this modern football days, it’s what they look at above the physicality.

 

[yorch44]

It’s not about modern football requires short centre back or 1.70 CB. It’s about having centre back that is very good on the ball. In this modern football days, it’s what they look at above the physicality.

Ok let's go with Viera and Cazorla as CBs, best pair in modern football where all it's about having excellent players with the ball... Arteta with more revolutionary ideas!!!

 

[yorch44]

No Messi is 169cm and Lisandro is 175cm which i think is believable from this pic.

Not if you see that Lisandro is up on that whatever is called in English thing. Look at the feet, not just the head.

 

[UnitedBeard]

Ok let's go with Viera and Cazorla as CBs, best pair in modern football where all it's about having excellent players with the ball... Arteta with more revolutionary ideas!!!

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Defending as CB is different to defending as midfield.

 

[Paperino]

Defending as CB is different to defending as midfield.

Your captain is Harry Maguire. You have no right to talk about centre backs.

 

[UnitedBeard]

Your captain is Harry Maguire. You have no right to talk about centre backs.

Good example of why being tall is not what they are looking for in modern centre back.

 

[tcahill]

Ajax fans say that aerial ability is a strength of his, I'm not worried about that. Keen to see this little fella bullying the likes of Chris Wood.

His best position is left centre back, I imagine he'll play the inverted Tomiyasu role when he plays there rather than a flying up the wing crossing it in Tierney style. I'm slightly concerned about having 2 more static fullbacks, but I'm guessing the two 8s in the 433 will have more licence to roam.

 

[Rasmi]

It might be hard for you to accept it now but that’s just how modern football works these days. Welcome to modern football.

Who is the smallest cb currently playing in the PL? Not one I can think of is close to his size

 

[Legend14]

How are we signing De Jong?

By not wasting money on projects and backs ups? You improve the starting 11 and make players like Xhaka and Martinelli the back ups/competition.

We had Saliba, we signed White (who i do like btw, but still..)

We had Guendouzi, we signed Lokonga.

We had Leno, we signed Ramsdale.

Vieira 30m, Martinez 40m. Thats more than the fee Utd are paying for De Jong. He's said in the past he saw Arsenal as a club he'd like to join, called it the Overmars pathway. I think we could at least compete with Utd for his signature.

Our transfer strategy is a bit all over the place. I really like the look of Martinez, but he is best as a CB and then a DM. In CB we have Gabriel, White, Saliba all of a similar age. In DM we have Partey and have given Elneny a new contract.

The Vieria signing is nonsense because of the fee. Olise cost 8m last summer. Vieria is a huge gamble. Look at Renato Sanches, Trincao, Fabio Silva, Taveras going straight from Liga NOS to a big club, it didn't work out so well.

People who think midgets can play CB in the people are the dumbest people on earth. Oh he has a great leap…fvck off

He kind of did it last year. I’d take him over our backup CB with the cement shoes. Do you have a fear of short people or something? This one is really under your skin.

 

[Legend14]

It’s not about modern football requires short centre back or 1.70 CB. It’s about having centre back that is very good on the ball. In this modern football days, it’s what they look at above the physicality.

He is good on the ball and very physical. He is short, but can leap and wins 71 percent of the duels in the air. I am just at a lost as to where he is at a disadvantage. Someone enlighten me.

 

[Arsenal1508]

Another waste of money like Ben White.
We need a target man and another central midfielder.

 

[Legend14]

Another waste of money like Ben White.
We need a target man and another central midfielder.

Don’t disagree on the priorities, but I am resigned to look at it holistically given there isn’t a strategy. I assume we will fill the other needs, intelligently.

 

[Rasmi]

He kind of did it last year. I’d take him over our backup CB with the cement shoes. Do you have a fear of short people or something? This one is really under your skin.

Because he is too small to play cb. This isn’t Dutch league where Ajax play with two cb who spend most of the time by the halfway line.

 

[Legend14]

Because he is too small to play cb. This isn’t Dutch league where Ajax play with two cb who spend most of the time by the halfway line.

But why? I am not getting it. He can jump. Where else will height be the issue.

Setting a wall, ok. What else?

 

[Rasmi]

But why? I am not getting it. He can jump. Where else will height be the issue.

Setting a wall, ok. What else?

So can taller players. You think he can jump that much higher than other players that 5’9 if he is even that won’t be a problem? Fvcking messi looks bigger than him

 

[The_Playmaker]

You never kicked a ball have you

Never headed one more like.

 

[Iwobeast]

We’re not buying this guy for the CB position so don’t know why his height matters