Which player(s) do you think will benefit most playing under a new manager?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by krengon, May 23, 2018.

  1. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    We're getting 34 year old Lichtsteiner. Tierney and Gaya would be my choices.
  2. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    They aren't fixable by coaching , only by Mustafi himself really . It's pure decision making , some learn from experience some don't .
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  3. akhil

    akhil Active Member

    It's not just coaching. It's accountability. When was the last time Wenger benched a senior player when they made multiple mistakes. It's frustrating when starting 11 guys keep f***ing up and then have no ramifications. On the flip side, when bench/stand in players do well, they go straight back to the bench. It shouldn't be hard to guess what those guys are thinking with the way things were being run at the club.

    That big dressing room leak that happened a couple months ago, if there was a modicum of truth in that, it was startling to hear the players say the coaches are of no use (paraphrasing here). A few years ago when Wenger was under pressure, you'd hear a number of players defend the manager and try to take some of the blame themselves. But nothing of that sort in the last couple of years, just more fights.
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  4. Bing Bong

    Bing Bong Member

    Although I will not argue that some of the mistakes by both Mustafi and Xhaka were dreadful, I believe we were not well coached defensively. I think our whole defence will look so much better with better coaching including those two. Think a new coach will make a huge difference.
  5. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    Is it too early to say Bellerin and Iwobi have improved under Emery?
  6. Tosker

    Tosker Hates Foreigners

    they're getting there - I see hope for Holding too - age may be a factor here, though Cech seems to be improving at his advanced age
  7. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    Possibly, but in a few months I feel there are some posters who may have to backtrack a bit on their claims that Wenger was a decent coach. Emery is seemingly showing him up in that department but let me now run my mouth off because I may be left embarrassed at the end of the season.
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  8. Emeryates

    Emeryates Just Here For Heccy

    The biggest blight on the careers of players, Wenger, is gone. Improvement was expected, hopefully we never get a manager this terrible again
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  9. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid A drama queen, hates most of our players.

    Wenger was decent coach mate all the way up until the end. Just not a top coach anymore and we needed that more modern approach that Emery bring us.
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  10. Emeryates

    Emeryates Just Here For Heccy

    Wenger was the biggest disaster this club has had in the last few years of his reign. Second only to Wilshere
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  11. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado

    The defenders & especially Cech look better for me.

    Iwobi has returned to previous form but dont really see the other attackers / midfielders playing at a better level.
  12. Emeryates

    Emeryates Just Here For Heccy

    Iwobi never looked this good under Wenger, the career killer.
  13. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado

    16/17 was a very good season.

    2000+ minutes, 12 G/As, national call up & individual awards.
  14. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid A drama queen, hates most of our players.

    Got tbh, haven't seen a single improvement in Mustafi game. But I never expected any manager to save him.
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  15. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    Yeah I agree with that. Times change. No shame in it actually.
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  16. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    Yeah, looking forward to Sokratis & Holding with Kos fighting for a place when he's fit.
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  17. Stannis

    Stannis Well-Known Member

    Gaya is beyond us. Signed a contract till 2023, he will go for more than 50 million

    Tierney is more realistic
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  18. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    I don't follow
  19. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    Now Ramsey's future is clearer I'm hoping Iwobi gets a good run. He's such a confidence player, he needs support to get the best from him. I always felt under Wenger that he was dropped at the wrong times, we'll see if he gets a run now.

    One player who hasn't had a chance yet due to injury is Kola, he may thrive under Emery, he started so well with us and was rapidly becoming a fan favourite, then it all went wrong. He'll do well to dislodge Monreal but I do think he can be a very adequate back up/rotation player. His strength is a huge bonus, I remember him pushing 3 or 4 defenders away in one go in his early games for us, it looked so cool!
  20. Stannis

    Stannis Well-Known Member

    great point. I reckon people have given up on him to easy. His sheer physical attributes can make up his lack of technical quality ( which isn't as bad as people think either). If he can work on his positional sense with Emery, there is no reason why he cant be a starter.

    He was great in his couple months, just pushed through defenders

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