Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by sabret00the, Nov 28, 2009.
it all starts at the back....
Sounds like an application for manager.hehe.
But this was bound to happen. Guys like gallas and andrey are not idiots. They are highly talented,world class and can easily see what we are missing. How frustrating it must be, when you can see a fix to a problem but cannot do anything about it. These players are playing great every week trying hard to pull the team along, but there's a limit.
It's kinda interesting at this point in time to see who all can go if wenger goes from here. Cesc might and he'll be missed.
rvP, I really don't care. almunia--no ****.nowhere to go for him i'm sure.nasri-is he good for a top european team? might fetch us some money though. rosicky-don't think he'll go. the remaining are just young kids who i'm afraid haven't made their marks to earn big moves. Not to first team laces at least. It should be interesting.
Players love to play for Wenger. I assume firstly because he plays the game they it should be and he improves thier play--most of 'em. And second because he is lenient as far as man management goes (no hair dryer treatments and all that.
It'd be one crazy feelin' if he did leave (I was 11 when he took over). We'd lose a large chunk of what the club has become. Though, I do believe the board would try and stick to our traditions of the last decade. I hope that we will be like Barca in that we always desire a certain style of football. We'd probably be less cosmopolitan. Would we really wanna go back to 1-0 to the Arsenal if it meant trophies?
This is not a stab at you Goonereagle, but why do so many fans think that the only alternative to our all out attacking style of play is going back to the old days of '1-0 to the Arsenal'? It's not as black and white as that, you can play attacking football without the amount of defensive frailty we have shown and winning games 1-0 can be the key to actually winning titles. Hell, the closest we ever came to winning the CL was playing very defensively/counter attack with one of the worst Arsenal teams I can remember. Pragmatism can go a long way.
I would happily take 1-0 and 0-0 for the entire season if it meant trophies. What I care most about is winning. Playing with a flourish and the innocent adventurism of youth is a nice to have for me.
cant dissagree with that.
I feel like Caesar you have stabbed me so much. Kiddin'.
Obviously, we don't all think it's gonna be the George Graham era, but I think it's because we're very happy with Wenger's style of play, and feel that noone should come in and try to duplicate it because they could fall flat on their face and bring the club with it.
It's a grass is greener type feeling. Some may feel we could find someone who has great style, but is also ruthless in the market and tactics-wise. I personally don't wanna see us attempt it. The main problem with Wenger is his stubborness in the market/ruthlessness, and if we can cure that we're sorted I believe.
I've often felt that Wenger doesn't like to spend big because if he does, and fails, it's all his responsibilty (also there is the ground excuse etc, etc). But, we have seen teams fall when trying to replace something that wasn't actually broken--more jammed.
There's somethin' about him that makes me want to rally around him--most of the time. Whereas I don't know if i'd be happy with a Mourinho, arrogant and kind of a win by any means necessary (draining games of life to win the title.) Their are few World Class gaffers around who play attacking football and are successful.
I would take Mourinho right now. Winner in Portugal, England, Italy, Europe. And still young. I would love for this guy to take over from Wenger and change the mentality of this team. Yes, he annoyed the hell out of me during his Chelsea reign, but I sincerely doubt any of us would have hated him if he had allowed the United-Arsenal axis to continue uncontested.
short term maybe Zico but long term, no way he`d be off as soon as Real said jump.
no doubting his ability to produce really boring champion football though.
i gotta go to bed...early start and all that.
Mourinho is terrible. He's managed to destroy Inter completely. They've gone from being one of the most solid teams in Europe to fragile mentalists. Our defence looks like Milan's in the 90s compared to them.
I'm not happy with Wenger but would not take Mourinho. I just don't like the guy, he has disrespected the club too much when he was at Chelsea and his sides play dull football.
Sounds like you're describing Wenger there, mate, not Mourinho.
Nah, It's Mourinho alright. Most hated man in Milano these days.
"Mourinho is terrible". That kind of guff is actually admirable on a Leninist level: don't just deny reality, assert the most extreme opposite of it! The sky is green. The Pope is Calvinist.
I would give up my smaller nut to have a team of mentalists led by the most hated man in England if it also came with league titles.
As I said players play for whoever pays them the most theres no loyalty in football these days- it's naive to believe otherwise.
One day he will be gone, Arsenal existed before Wenger and it will exist after him.
F**k Barcelona.....Do you support Arsenal or Barcelona?
The globalism that is the feature of our times is not confined to Arsenal but shared by many clubs.
In a second! you have to walk before you can run.
Goonereagle was probably kidding, Biggus... I can't imagine ANYONE who would choose pretty passing over trophies. That would be just against the reasons people have been playing competitive football for 100+ years.
When do you cheer more? After a cute 1-2 in our midfield, or during a trophy presentation?
Prog, the sad part is that some fans actually do feel that way and are indifferent to a trophyless season as long as they see a couple of 6-0 scorelines and quick passing moves they can cream over on the season review/youtube.
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It's always game, game, game? How difficult that must be for him.
Sometimes I doubt Arshavin's commitment to Sparkle Motion.
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