Year of the Ox

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by 1macca1, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. USArsenal

    USArsenal H.Y.I.C. Administrator

    Ox in the Euro squad! Well played Roy.. i can see Ox coming off the bench if the team needs offence later in games.. definitely not a starter though..

    good for him!
  2. G0D

    G0D Active Member

    You'd hazard a guess that Young and Walcott would be starting, an Downing offers nothing offensively so that'd just leave Ox as the offensive substitution.
  3. ebouenolike

    ebouenolike New Member Trusted

    What an odd point. Going to a big event like this will be a new experience, and will get him ready for the next 15 years of doing it that he will be a part of. He will train, and play against top opposition and it'll be a valuable experience for him.

    And, Hodgson has to bring a SQUAD, not just a team. He will likely get some minutes, especially after Hodgson talked of 2 from Theo/Ox/Young supporting a striker.

    Well done Ox, next season he's going to be lethal.
  4. Herbas

    Herbas New Member

    Wasn't it a generally accepted idea that inclusion to WC06 squad did more harm than helped Theo?
    Current circumstances seem to be like a deja vu with Alex.
  5. USArsenal

    USArsenal H.Y.I.C. Administrator

    except that Theo had literally not played a game for us at that point.. Ox has played for us, and played against some big teams (Milan anyone?)..

    not quite the same thing...
  6. outlaw_member

    outlaw_member New Member

    England can do well at this tournament, provided they play a 4-3-3 variant and employ very defensive counter-attacking tactics.


    Park the bus, play on the break, and they can be dangerous.
  7. evoh_1

    evoh_1 New Member

    Alex is physically and technically more equipped to go to the euros than theo was at the time, he will also offer something different and new that alot of other teams won't have seen. Its good for him but I'm sure wenger is pissed off as I think he wanted him in house for pre-season without getting him back run down from european comp.

    Roy said it was the milan game that tipped him, so does he see him as a CM as well as wide player?
  8. 1macca1

    1macca1 New Member Trusted

    He's certainly capable of making a big impact at the tournament but I think it's likely he'll struggle to make much of an impact. Due to a lack of minutes, the quality of team mates and the way England play. On top of it perhaps being a little early in his career.

    It should certainly be good experience for him anyway and hopefully mean he won't have to go to the Olympics. He seems absolutely thrilled in his interview on
  9. 1macca1

    1macca1 New Member Trusted

    He'd have been going to the Olympics anyway so if this means he won't be going then it's preferable as he'll likely play less and be back before the season starts.

    Roy also said he was impressed by the way Ox played against Ambrosini and Pirlo, neither of whom played in that match, so all we can conclude is Roy talks a lot of **** and probably didn't even watch the match.
  10. ebouenolike

    ebouenolike New Member Trusted

    Let's not compare Theo 06 with Ox 2012 for a few reasons:

    a) Theo hadn't played a single game for Arsenal
    b) Ox has played (and scored) in Champions League, Carling Cup and Premier League.
    c) Theo was 16? at the WORLD CUP, Ox will be 18 (months away from 19) at the Euros. Much less pressure.
  11. Beksl

    Beksl Sell All The Youngsters

    Congrats to OX, looking at the squad he has a fair chance of actually getting some playing time, there's not a lot of attacking talent and flair in this England squad.
  12. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

    Theo was 17,

    agree with the rest. Seeing both in the team will be good for England tbh, some pace and incision at last.

    Did Adam Johnson make the squad?
  13. GG8

    GG8 Active Member

    No Mark, neither did Walker Outlaw.
  14. Beksl

    Beksl Sell All The Youngsters

    I believe Johnson is on the reserves list.
  15. ebouenolike

    ebouenolike New Member Trusted

    Walker is injured, definitely would have made it otherwise.
  16. realtalk

    realtalk New Member

    sturridge should of got the nod before ox to be honest.
  17. ebouenolike

    ebouenolike New Member Trusted

    No. For so many reasons, no.
  18. fabo

    fabo 6.51 / 10

    Richards should be first choice RB, Glen Johnson has actually had a good season, same cannot be said for Phil Jones.

    Can't see Ox getting many minutes, Hodgson will throw on Downing before him and England won't play more than 4 games.
  19. Irish_Owen

    Irish_Owen New Member Elite

    Name one reason...

  20. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

    Wait. Downing made the squad?

    Stewart ****ing Downing?

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