Youri Tielemans

[AbouCuéllar]

This might be the plan. Get Tielemans who can play DMF against easier opponents, while Partey can against tougher opponents. Tielemans is Xhaka level for the CMF role I think.

Then get another DMF like Danilo, or someone in January. Get rid of Elneny and Sambi next summer.

I was surprised to look at Partey vs. Tielemans stats this season. They are quite close in every aspect. Comments?

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Player Comparison: Thomas Partey vs. Youri Tielemans

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Yeah, I'm worried about the overbooking and consequences if we sign Danilo or another of his type and Tielemans, but let's see what happens. I trust in God(teta).

 

[Riou]

Xhaka/Tielemans as the more offensive midfielder, with Partey/Elneny as the more defensive one...very good options to have that.

Would take the pressure off having to play Granit every damn match too, since Sambi is looking a little lost in this league still.

 

[drippin]

Yeah, I'm worried about the overbooking and consequences if we sign Danilo or another of his type and Tielemans, but let's see what happens. I trust in God(teta).

But Danilo (or some DMF) would replace Elneny, and Tielemans would replace Sambi.

What's the overbooking?

If you're thinking about Patino and Azeez, they can go on more loans. Arsenal needs more proven quality. These guys might be ready in two years and at that point one can make more decisions.

 

[AbouCuéllar]

What's the overbooking?

a) with CL we won't rotate and give as many chances to second team players
b) ESR and Vieira. If we sign a wide attacking player ESR and Vieira's only chance at real minutes is as Xhaka + Ødegaard backups. (Gabigod, Saka, Ødegaard, Mudryk--for example--, Vieira, ESR, Tielemans, Xhaka, Thomas, and Danilo is 10 for 5 positions, too much for meaningful minutes for everyone), especially in the ages ESR, Vieira, Danilo, Tielemans, and Mudryk are in, where they need minutes to evolve.

 

[dashsnow17]

People are seriously spoiled if they don’t want Tielemans at 15-20m or even on a free. He’s a very good footballer with solid experience and of the perfect age. Players of similar quality fetch at least twice if not more on the market.

Different league to Lokonga and a different league to this Danilo yute.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

People are seriously spoiled if they don’t want Tielemans at 15-20m or even on a free. He’s a very good footballer with solid experience and of the perfect age. Players of similar quality fetch at least twice if not more on the market.

Different league to Lokonga and a different league to this Danilo yute.

My gut feeling is that we'll wait till he is on a free, bar injury to Xhaka. I could see us going for Danilo in january.

 

[14Henry]

Whos he playing squaddie to?

We will have league, cups and CL to contend with. He will get at least 25 starts here.

If we want to be a big team we have to start acting like one. And that is having a better quality of player challenging our starting 11.

I don't hear City fans complaining about Mahrez or Silva on the bench. Nor Liverpool with Jota/Firmino/Nunez/Dias for 2 spaces.

Teilemans is a great pick up for free. It will allow us to sell Lokonga, bring in a top DCM and winger and add quality in the first 11 along with the overall squad. And if it doesn't work out you sell him 2 years latter for 20m or so.

 

[drippin]

a) with CL we won't rotate and give as many chances to second team players
b) ESR and Vieira. If we sign a wide attacking player ESR and Vieira's only chance at real minutes is as Xhaka + Ødegaard backups. (Gabigod, Saka, Ødegaard, Mudryk--for example--, Vieira, ESR, Tielemans, Xhaka, Thomas, and Danilo is 10 for 5 positions, too much for meaningful minutes for everyone), especially in the ages ESR, Vieira, Danilo, Tielemans, and Mudryk are in, where they need minutes to evolve.

Not sure if you have seen my post in the Squad Analysis thread, but it's easier to continue there when we are talking about the whole squad.

I have 22 players + 3 GK's listed here:

Squad Analysis 2022/23

This squad definitely needs another cm, winger and striker. Desperately. We been very lucky to have our front 3 healthy so far. Sp**s had Richarldson and kulu out and now son. Liverpool Jota and Diaz. How some of our fans can’t see how short we are is beyond me. But I guess that’s what winning...

arsenal-mania.com

 

[avenellroad]

Will be a decent signing especially on a free. He has a lot to offer and will be far better suited to how Arteta wants this team to evolve

 

[dashsnow17]

My gut feeling is that we'll wait till he is on a free, bar injury to Xhaka. I could see us going for Danilo in january.

I just don’t see what this Danilo guy has that makes him so special, he looks quite clunky to me, but maybe it’s something you have to watch him in a full 90 mins

 

[drippin]

I just don’t see what this Danilo guy has that makes him so special, he looks quite clunky to me, but maybe it’s something you have to watch him in a full 90 mins

For me it's about getting more cover for DMF, because Sambi can't do it. In addition this new DMF would adjust to EPL and the team already for next season.

Doesn't have to be Danilo, but I'm not sure what good options there are in January window.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

I'm a bit surprised we haven't looked at Koopmeiners, perhaps we have. He's the right age and can play as a number 6.

 

[The_Playmaker]

I'm a bit surprised we haven't looked at Koopmeiners, perhaps we have. He's the right age and can play as a number 6.

Played more of an 8 for 2 seasons now. He is similar to Xhaka.

 

[Rattata]

I would get him for 10m if it means we don't see Lokonga this season again.

 

[Sebastes]

Having Xhaka, Tielemans and Ødegaard for the 8 and 8/10 in our setup is very good imo. Ideally we can add someone who can play both 6/8 as well and we have 5 quality players for 3 starting positions. With 4 comps there are plenty of games to around.

 

[KrissKringle]

Why not just spend 20m and get him 12 months earlier, quite risky to leave the midfield so light just to save money

Why spend 20 mil when you can get him for free in a few months? We can spend that money on another midfielder and in the summer send Lokonga on loan or sell Elneny.

We'd have two new midfielders that are an upgrade on our bench option.

 

[SA Gunner]

Better signing than Douglas Luiz in my opinion, and better yet is available on a free or possibly a “small fee” if we move for him now.

An 8 profile yes and will play the Xhaka role for us, but I feel he can also operate in a double pivot or in our 2/3 man second phase, alongside Zinchenko and White IMO. He would need some coaching on his alertness and passing selection in deeper roles though, due to the critical nature of that position. That said, I still think we need a starting 6 in the summer still.

Tielemans and Ndicka are the free signings we shouldn’t be missing out on this summer.

 

[Legend14]

Having Xhaka, Tielemans and Ødegaard for the 8 and 8/10 in our setup is very good imo. Ideally we can add someone who can play both 6/8 as well and we have 5 quality players for 3 starting positions. With 4 comps there are plenty of games to around.

If we didn’t sign Vieira, this would be fine. Tieleman is more impactful further up the pitch and the rotation would be ideal.

I don’t think he is combative enough for deep lying.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

Shan’t be needing this type of player babyyy

Already have xhaka babyyyy

Need something more dynamic babyyyyyyt

 

[Nunowoolmez]

Wouldn't be against this, but I'm just not convinced we really want him.

We have Xhaka, & ESR to come back. Hes not a player for the TP position, he isn't dynamic or athletic enough.

We have Ode & Viera also, so just not sure where he fits in. Possibly with question marks over ESR reliability, it would make sense..