Arsenal vs Chelsea |FA Community Shield| 06/08/2017 | 14:00 BST (13:00 UTC) | BT Sport

[Sniper Mik]

I love how people on here think Sp**s finishing second is some kind of achievement and brilliant league performance from them but when we do it that is not good enough.

Just one of the thing that is happening with Arsenal fans in last 2-3 years. Liking Sp**s more than their own team. Disgusting.

Seriously the love fest for the **** in this place is just sickening.

 

[BobP]

Each season is different, teams in bottom half are stronger. They do better. But what never change is the positions. 1st is the same as 1st and 2nd is the same as 2nd.

Sounds totally logical...

 

[al-Ustaadh]

Someone please think of the children!

 

[Makingtrax]

Not being aggressive.

You're just a consistently **** poster.

This post is further evidence of that.

Just relax ffs.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

It's like an episode of Arsenal fan TV in here.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Why should I care?

Perspective.

 

[Jonathan Mccombie]

Sp**s have crafted a highly effective starting eleven, the back five is highly impressive even without walker, alderweireld is highly impressive. Dier is good and effective anchor man. Sp**s only problem is recent poor and ineffective signings such as Janssen and Sissoko, they have a lack of squad depth.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Sp**s have crafted a highly effective starting eleven, the back five is highly impressive even without walker, alderweireld is highly impressive. Dier is good and effective anchor man. Sp**s only problem is recent poor and ineffective signings such as Janssen and Sissoko, they have a lack of squad depth.

Okay that is nice way to say they are trash.

 

[Ewarwoowar]

Squad cost is not an effective argument in my book, what we should be looking at is squad worth. Up until say recent seasons arsenal were laying in the bottom half of the table in net spend for a significant period of years whilst the other of the top 6 sides were spending a lot of money by the standards of pre hyper inflation. Our misfortune is just as We do seem to have a little spare cash it just so happens to fall in line with the period of this hyper inflation, which would ultimately see us not get any where near as much for our money as those sides whom built predominantly most of their team before hyper inflation.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

"Don't worry bro. We got this. We win at Wembley!" #WeAreTheArsenal7

 

[Makingtrax]

Squad cost is not an effective argument in my book, what we should be looking at is squad worth. Up until say recent seasons arsenal were laying in the bottom half of the table in net spend for a significant period of years whilst the other of the top 6 sides were spending a lot of money by the standards of pre hyper inflation. Our misfortune is just as We do seem to have a little spare cash it just so happens to fall in line with the period of this hyper inflation, which would ultimately see us not get any where near as much for our money as those sides whom built predominantly most of their team before hyper inflation.

Good point. Now that countries are starting to own clubs it's going to get worse.

 

[Makingtrax]

Yet there are 87 clubs in the FA alone and literally hundreds of non-league clubs across England who would gladly switch spots with Arsenal in this past season's league table (compared to 4 who wouldn't). To the fans of most of those clubs, Arsenal fans must seem like a bunch of whiney little self-entitled babies. Winning the league isn't a birthright. Nor is finishing in the top 4 (despite how Arsenal's amazing run under Wenger might have made it seem so).

Accomplishing those things has become increasingly difficult in recent years as sugar daddy owners have lifted a couple of clubs far past their historical place. Competition at the top is fierce. Somebody really good is going to lose out every year when you have a "Big 6" that you're trying to fit into 4 spots. Arsenal finished 5th last season with 75 points. In no other season in Premier League history would that not have been enough to make the top 4 and in many years it would have easily attained 2nd place. It was a higher point total than their runner-up finish the previous season. Yet to hear some of the moaning and groaning you'd think Arsenal had barely survived relegation.

In other words we were 5th out of 92.

Believe I said something similar once and @Jury made his mission to lampoon it as often as humanly possible. As if to say, 'We're Arsenal, it's absurd to think that we should be anything other than 1st out of 20.'

I've never subscribed to that. Ambition is one thing but realistic ambition is a whole other ball game. A lot has changed since 2005.

 

[arsmile]

"Don't worry bro. We got this. We win at Wembley!" #WeAreTheArsenal7

when the press team send our players the copy they need to put on twitter- bellerin is the best at translating it into his own voice!

 

[rich 1990]

It's going to be a long season if you people don't knock off all the crap.

 

[mavelous]

Can't wait to see kola and laca, hope they hit the ground running

 

[GDeep™]

I've felt this same way for a while but didn't want to come across as super negative because i'm new here. But damn I don't know whats happened to Arséne's eye for talent. The banter years had a better starting 11 than this.

It's a forum mate, post what you feel, if it's negative then people will just have to suck it up.

 

[GDeep™]

It's going to be a long season if you people don't knock off all the crap.

What sort of rubbish is this? People coming on to a forum to shut down debate.

Piss off.

 

[Jury]

Believe I said something similar once and @Jury made his mission to lampoon it as often as humanly possible. As if to say, 'We're Arsenal, it's absurd to think that we should be anything other than 1st out of 20.'

It wasn't that at all! If you'd have said '2nd of 20', it wouldn't have been anywhere near as funny. The '2nd of 92' was ridiculed because about 87 of those 92 clubs don't even have a shot! 'Realistic ambition', you say?

 

[scytheavatar]

I love how people on here think Sp**s finishing second is some kind of achievement and brilliant league performance from them but when we do it that is not good enough.

Just one of the thing that is happening with Arsenal fans in last 2-3 years. Liking Sp**s more than their own team. Disgusting.

Sp**s is a small club, we are a big club, if you want us to be held to the same standard as them then wake the freak up. Is being better than Sp**s really something to be proud of?

 

[Slartibartfast]

In other words we were 5th out of 92.

Believe I said something similar once and @Jury made his mission to lampoon it as often as humanly possible. As if to say, 'We're Arsenal, it's absurd to think that we should be anything other than 1st out of 20.'

I've never subscribed to that. Ambition is one thing but realistic ambition is a whole other ball game. A lot has changed since 2005.

The problem with that thinking, of course, is that United fans can say "We're Manchester United...," Liverpool fans can say "We're Liverpool...," etc. They can't all be right and since nobody wins it every season they're actually all wrong. It's exactly the sort of self-entitled thinking you were talking about. It's just too crowded at the top for anybody to be assured of anything. Sp**s joined the club the past couple of seasons to make it 6 and now that Everton has some money they might just make it 7 before too long. It's increasingly tricky navigation. Even being a sugar daddy club isn't a guarantee.