David Luiz

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by bingobob, Jan 30, 2018.

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  1. Hleb's Sirush

    Hleb's Sirush Well-Known Member

    Let's get this done. Fairly decent defender but as been mentioned before his pasing ability is where we hope to gain the most.

    For a team that plays from the back, our defenders are so limited on the ball.

    We started first game of last season with Cech and Mustafi in the back line. If we start this season with Leno and Luiz that will be a huge improvement when it comes to not shooting ourselves in the foot by giving the opposition cheap handovers.
     
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  2. al-Ustaadh

    al-Ustaadh Professor of Twitter

    Still worry about Luiz making stupid decisions. He can be pretty brainless at times. God forbid we play him and Mustafi at the same time.
     
  3. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Was just thinking, does this mean 3 at the back ? Luiz is superb as the guy that defender reading the game and making interceptions , generally playing on the front foot and launching attacks .

    Not so good at the other stuff .
     
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  4. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    And we play a lopsided system to accommodate this guy
     
  5. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Monstrous in a back 3. Not so much in a 2. I’ll take him for 8m though
     
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  6. Trofton

    Trofton New Member

    You guys honestly think he’s a good defender? He’s the only defender who spends more time in the opposition area. It’s bad when we’ve needed a CB since the start of the transfer window and the only one we sign is one that can’t defend
     
  7. Camron

    Camron Established Member

    "But he hasn't had any proper attackers to work with."

    Now we added Pepe and Ceballos:

    "Too many creative players who occupy his operating space."

    CBA with lower upper case typing (insert Spongebob).
     
  8. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Diarra was an elite talent and a bargain for £4m. Stood out in the few appearances he made for us - specifically Blackburn away in the FA Cup.

    Wenger was an idiot for ignoring him despite Flamini and Gilberto being in the final year at the club.
     
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  9. Ceballinhos

    Ceballinhos Cheating on Santi

    Idk why Luiz is so underrated by Arsenal fans.
    Sure he isn't top class, and he had a few terrible moments in his career.

    But you don't spend that much time at Chelsea, while being mainly a starter, if you're ****.
    Mourinho & Conte, who are known to be defensive minded coaches both relied on him and have built successful winning team with him in the side.


    He is no VVD, but last year he was much better than all our CB, Koscielny included.
    He's passing is great, our coach wants to build from the back so it's an important asset to have.
    His physicality is going to help us against relegation sides who wants to bully us in the box.

    He's a **** and god knows how it's useful in today's game.

    For £8M it's a no brainer. Get him on short term deal.
     
  10. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Agree with this , so begs the question are we going to play with a back three.
     
  11. Ceballinhos

    Ceballinhos Cheating on Santi

    Emery is a flexible manager.
    We will play both it will depend on our squad (form, injuries, results) and stick with what works best.
     
  12. Ricardinho

    Ricardinho La Liga Correspondent

    Tony Adams covers that situation in his book. Says diarra didn't put in the hard yards during a game expected of Arsenal players.
     
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  13. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    I haven’t seen anyone say that. It’s moreso that:

    1) We have a short term, urgent need for a proven CB who can hit the ground running
    2) While Luiz clearly wouldn’t have been many people’s first choice, hearing the fee was £20m and now all of sudden it’s £5m, while Chelsea fans think it should be £30m, means it doesn’t prevent us getting an elite CB and protects
    3) We are weakening a top 4 rival who can’t replace him, while strengthening ourselves. He will instantly improve our play from the back which means less reliance on Xhaka’s dawdling

    I was critical even in this thread but I had a night to think about it and there are many more pluses than minuses
     
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  14. Jasard

    Jasard Forum Issue Troubleshooter

    Ive warmed to this as a Kos replacement. Certainly no worse than Kos and is basically paid for with the Kos and Jenkinson sales.
     
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  15. Underhill

    Underhill Well-Known Member

    Maybe in some games, but i imagine a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 is preferred given Unai Emerys style and our purchases this summer.
     
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  16. field442

    field442 Hates Journalists Named James

    We’ve played a back 3 for one half in preseason so I’d say it’s very unlikely at this point. The only way it might happen is with an injury crisis similar to last season.
     
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  17. Ceballinhos

    Ceballinhos Cheating on Santi

    How can you compare Luiz to Elneny.

    Luiz is a proven international brazilian player in the PL. He's won much more things than we won during the same period.
    He was rated by great coaches like Conte & Mourinho and was a central piece of their teams.
    He's been solid last season.

    Elneny was a nonce playing in switzerland ffs.
     
  18. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Luiz played all last season with Sarri in back 4.with signing of Tierney and pepe there is no more back 3 unless we hit with injuries.
     
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  19. kraphtous

    kraphtous Raul Stanllehi



    Let's go!!!!!
     
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  20. Ceballinhos

    Ceballinhos Cheating on Santi

    very good news
     
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