Ah the rumours have gone from interest to made up bids.
THIS.
Wait wait wait what did they just say?????
I’m convinced now. Sign him up
For me speed and acceleration are always important for attackers especially.
Rudiger, Hazard?
I think the mentions of these two complicate your argument in pretty important and obvious ways, no? (Rudiger just got here, Vinicius and Rodrygo's evolution predates it by a number of years; Hazard no one gives a **** about him at Madrid and if anything he's held up as an example of how not to behave in that dressing room...) Even the mention of Benzema has its problems here (Benzema and Vinicius issues--Benzema being caught by mic basically saying don't give the ball to Vini--before his breakout in 21-22)...)
the experience you want him to get means we won’t get him. If he goes to Newcastle and confirm his talent you think we can buy him? Offcourse it’s a gamble. Just a gamble worth taking because of his special attributes that suits this league. Arsenal don’t buy starting stars from other top teams. It’s really now or never. Hell if he goes to Brentford and blows the league away we won’t get him. We not real who can wait and get the players later
Yeah, very important point. Have to get in on the ground floor. Just like if Martinelli and Saka developed to their actual level at another club they'd be playing at United and PSG, or if Vinicius developed to his actual level at another club he'd be playing at PSG or City not Madrid.
No. They both won trophies before coming to Real and can teach the youngsters a couple of things. Just because Rudiger got there in the summer and Hazard had a terrible stint at the club ever since he signed for them does not mean that they can't offer any valuable information to the young ones.Rudiger, Hazard?
And it’s one of the most obvious young player who will explode in 1-2 years I seen in a while. Not one you can say oh this has surprised me. He is fat from the finished article. Difference between me and @drippin is he see the loss of the ball and his position while I see attributes that if shaped right can be devastating. He shoot and crosses with both feet. He also has good vision. His goal against Ajax shows how devastating he is. But some people actually believe a goal like this can’t be scored in the PL
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Winning trophies does not simply = being suited to teach youngsters things. What did Arteta win of importance before he got to the Arsenal dressing room, for example?
I'm not talking about Hazard's terrible stint about the club. I'm talking about issues with his professionalism (diet and preparation) that have been recognised and corroborated.
You're clearly not aware of the details of this incident nor what both players have said about it and that time afterwards.
Valencia were fleeced or Barcelona?Rudiger, Hazard?
In short, I think it's pretty obvious why Vinicius and Rodrygo are mentioned when comparing the potential value of Mudryk, and I also don't agree whatsoever that there are favourable circumstances for the development of a young talent (not to mention a massive difference in starting conditions--Vinicius and Rodrygo coming from another continent at 17, and I think 18 in Rodrygo's case--whereas Mudryk is 21) at Madrid than with us, all things concerned, Madrid has some arguable benefits on us in that sense (though I think it's obvious we have a fantastic atmosphere at the club and situation for bringing up young talents of Mudryk's age, it's hard to think of a better set of circumstances in football, honestly), but also some definite downsides not existing at Arsenal (far more intense mediatic presence / far less patient and more exigent in general environment around the club).
re: Ferran's price @drippin , two things to take into account:
a) everyone in football, especially Spanish football, were absolutely baffled at that price and were considered Valencia were absolutely fleeced (have to ask yourself why this was? Valencia and Shakhtar have similar levels of economic desperation and need for injection of income, so I think the inequivalent circumstance would be level of competition / interest for Ferran, where there seems to be genuine interest from all the top clubs)
b) Ferran never represented the level of talent and potential that Mudryk does
A more realistic estimation of Ferran's market value, IMO, would be something between the City (probably very much up front fee, for Valencia's needs) fee and the Barça fee (no doubt very much amortised payment in the Barça style, where they'll be asking Ethan Nwaneri to take a paycut to pay the money owed to City still in 2030
Yeah, I tend to agree, haven't watched him enough to say with any authority or conviction, but everything I see (including what looks like real interest from all big clubs in Europe) smells of a legit top talent.And it’s one of the most obvious young player who will explode in 1-2 years I seen in a while. Not one you can say oh this has surprised me. He is fat from the finished article. Difference between me and @drippin is he see the loss of the ball and his position while I see attributes that if shaped right can be devastating. He shoot and crosses with both feet. He also has good vision. His goal against Ajax shows how devastating he is. But some people actually believe a goal like this can’t be scored in the PL
But we seen Son score similar goal just running through a PL team
Heung-Min Son's RIDICULOUS Puskas winner against Burnley!
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They got 33,5 million euros according to Transfermarkt. It looks like he had a year in contract.
I'm talking about the perception around football, not my own. My own perception then and now I shared there. Ferran only having a year on his contract I don't recall, so that may be something the general perception around football didn't take into account properly (I don't recall that, honestly...are you sure?).
"This is because his contract expires on 30th June 2021 and Valencia have still not renewed him. Some people have already criticised the fact that this has not been done. For now, everything is up in the aier and teams are lying in wait."
